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Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by lowkey_ on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @04:32PM (#39844243)
> There's a reason the big NYC area malls are in Paramus and Elizabeth.

I think the reason is that malls are just out-of-fashion.

If we consider the SoHo area to be the equivalent of a mall, or the North Williamsburg/Greenpoint area to be a mall, I'd bet they dwarf the Paramus & Elizabeth malls in GMV sold and foot traffic.

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Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by busterarm on Thursday March 28, 2024 @12:06AM (#39847680)
SoHo retail has been collapsing for more than a decade. Storefront availability was nearly 25% in 2017.
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Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by lowkey_ on Thursday March 28, 2024 @12:17PM (#39853534)
At least according to this article in 2017 [1], it looks like that was because of SoHo's soaring rents (because there's tons of great shopping which brings a lot of people there). It was also common across the country at the time.

It's apparently back and better than ever though [2].

And anecdotally, everyone I know shops much more in SoHo than they did a decade ago, even if the center has shifted to Williamsburg/Greenpoint and more thrifting / vintage stores.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/nyregion/soho-empty-store... [2] https://equicapmag.com/real-estate/soho-retail-rebounds/#:~:....

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