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Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by rsynnott on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @02:11PM (#39842624)
I'm honestly kind of shocked to discover that Manhattan's only getting one now. Like, taken on its own it is one of the densest large urban areas on earth. I'd assume driving in it is a fairly miserable experience, anyway; where on earth do people park?
Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by IncreasePosts on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @02:20PM (#39842746)
Yes, I was living in Manhattan in 2004 working on GPS navigation software, and had to perform some updates relating to the London congestion charge. I thought to myself "This is such a great idea, Manhattan will surely implement a similar system within a couple years". Here we are, 20 years later...

Parking is only really a problem below 59th st or so. You can usually get street parking by driving in circles for 20 minutes, or go to a parking garage and pay ~$8/hr to park.

Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by CPLX on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @03:57PM (#39843833)
Driving in Manhattan is pretty straightforward. There are parking garages everywhere you'd want to go (though most non-NYC people would probably consider them shockingly expensive) and at night and on weekends street parking is not too hard to find in most areas.

But outside of rush hours and especially a few places like the tunnel approaches it's not a big deal. People do it constantly, it's totally normal for people from NJ or Westchester or LI to drive in for dinner and park, that kind of thing.

Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by bombcar on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:11PM (#39844654)
I wonder if the parking should be taxed instead of tolling the bridge.
Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by CPLX on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @07:41PM (#39845978)
It is heavily taxed.
Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by macNchz on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @10:55PM (#39847269)
I’ve owned a car in Brooklyn for more than 10 years and find it basically nonfunctional to drive in a lot of Manhattan and surroundings. The idea of driving in for dinner from NJ makes my skin crawl. I have family in NJ and Manhattan, and go through the Holland Tunnel frequently. Sometimes it’s fine. Sometimes it’s hell.

The random chance of winding up in standstill gridlock is just way too high. I can’t even count all of the times it has taken me over an hour to go like five blocks. Every time I’ve had the bad idea drive to the office to get a head start on an after-work trip, my mind is blown that some people actually do it every day, by choice.

Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by pxmpxm on Thursday March 28, 2024 @06:50PM (#39858365)
Second that - for us it's a complete waste of time trying to go into manhattan from dumbo anytime during the work week, it's essentially a giant parkinglot from the bridges onwards.

I imagine all the congestion toll will do is swap the cost of congestion from time to something more palatable like money. And a windfall for people that own real estate just outside of the tolled boundary (yay brooklyn)

Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by shadowgovt on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @03:42PM (#39843653)
In specially-architected car elevators for a large amount relative to what you pay for parking in other urban areas. Daily parking varies from $20 to $125.

(I mean, there are also more traditional parking garages, both above- and below-ground, but the premium on real estate is high enough to justify more expensive solutions to maximize land value also).

Re:MTA board votes to approve new $15 toll to drive into Man... by CSMastermind on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:58PM (#39845108)
> I'd assume driving in it is a fairly miserable experience

Driving in Manhattan is actually pretty pleasant, all things considered. Wouldn't even make a top 10 list for me of worst places to drive in the US. I think in part because there's a weird selection bias where people think it will be bad, so bad drivers don't even attempt, and you're left with a cohort that, on average, has above-average driving skills.

Seattle on the other hand? Worst driver's in the US by a country mile.