Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math & physics tutoring

Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by andai on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:55AM (#39837168)

Re: incentives being weird in higher education: we once overheard the director of the CS department respond to complaints about the program not being a good fit for industry by saying, "our job is to create researchers."

I recall something like 7% of students going on into research, meaning that they weren't even trying to meet the needs of 93% of their students.

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by sgu999 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:10AM (#39837259)

What would be the percentage of researchers left if they weren't trying this hard to create them?

With a good theoretical background in CS, most of what you need for the industry can be learned more easily throughout your career.

That universities are not dedicated to teaching how to be an immediately productive economical actor makes sense. That's of course assuming you don't have to take on 300k of debt to get a degree...

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by dekleinewolf on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:41AM (#39837442)

It's way easier to make a good programmer out of a researcher than a researcher out of a programmer.

I have always had programming jobs (job title: software engineer) that required the 'researcher' mindset. We didn't mind teaching them our stack or even good coding practice, but if they didn't have the 'explorative/innovative mind' of a 'researcher', we could never train them up to the level they needed to be.

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by Muller20 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:19AM (#39837308)

You don't need a university degree if you just want to learn the last javascript frontend framework, a good coding bootcamp can teach you that. Inflation of credentials is not a problem that universities created, it is an industry issue.

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by Gooblebrai on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @07:04AM (#39837578)

The issue is having made university the institution one has to go through to access employment.

University was meant to be the destination of future scholars.

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by touchngthevodka on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:24AM (#39837348)

Since when did we start making the assumption that university is supposed to be vocational?

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:45AM (#39838310)

When they started teaching mechanical engineering, not just physics. And chemical engineering, not just chemistry.

They need to start teaching software engineering, not just computer science. And 93% of their CS students need to switch.

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by computerfriend on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:52AM (#39837501)

What do you think the S in CS stands for?

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by cess11 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:02AM (#39837214)

Between the two sentences "good fit for industry" gets rephrased into "needs of 93% of their students".

I think it would have been clearer to just stick with "good fit for industry".

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Re:Show HN: I made a cheap alternative to college-level math... by humansareok1 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @11:00AM (#39840174)

Then go study Software Engineering not Computer SCIENCE lol. Idk why this mind virus continues to eat people's brains. College isn't and never was meant to be a job training program. Some majors do more then others and if that's what you want select those majors it's pretty simple.

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