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Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by mynameisvlad on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:11AM (#39815306)
That’s an extremely harsh take considering those same owners likely do care a lot about their dogs and shower them with love and affection outside those 8 hours. You’re focusing on a single part of the experience in order to paint the whole thing in a negative light.

To put it another way, would they be better off being strays? I doubt it.

Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by vouaobrasil on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:16AM (#39815347)
Extremely harsh? Many of these dogs are very smart. What about locking a human away for 8 hours with no internet, no books, no entertainment, nothing to do?

And it might be affection they give their dogs but it's not really love if they are so cruel. Besides, they wouldn't be strays if they were never bought, at least not a lot of them if the demand were lower, then so would the breeding and supply.

Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by rybosworld on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:32AM (#39815503)
> What about locking a human away for 8 hours with no internet, no books, no entertainment, nothing to do

These arguments fall apart when the animal is anthropomorphized.

Dogs sleep a lot more than people do, needing around 12 hours. They will take about 4 hours of that sleep in the day regardless if a human is around.

It's very breed dependent but, the majority of dogs don't require a significant amount of mental stimulation. For most breeds, a half hour of mental stimulation is plenty.

Obviously locking a husky or a cattle dog in an apartment (and this unfortunately does happen), is another story. There are certain breeds you shouldn't go for if you live in an apartment. But there are a lot of breeds that do just fine, even some large ones, like greyhounds.

Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by matwood on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:47AM (#39815641)
Exactly. My wife has been rescuing French Bulldogs for years. Even before they were this popular. The problem is they have all sorts of health issues that people don't account for, so they get turned in more than you think. But, their demeanor makes them great apartment dogs. They'll happily sleep 15 hours/day, and even when outside will lay down in the sun to sleep more.

Speaking of greyhounds, we fostered an Italian Greyhound one time...and I thought Frenchies were fragile.

Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by lallysingh on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:25AM (#39815437)
I called that K-12.
Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by triceratops on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:56AM (#39816361)
You didn't have books in school?
Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by hackable_sand on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:52PM (#39823116)
Dog ate them
Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by triceratops on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:55AM (#39815703)
Pre-pandemic, when my partner and I had to go to work and leave the dog alone, we made sure to leave multiple treat toys and puzzles for entertainment, and were never away for longer than 6 hours.

Now that we both work from home we can see that the dog mostly sleeps all day, occasionally getting up to bark at some squirrels or passers-by.

Re:When Did Dogs Become Our Best Friends? by the_af on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:12AM (#39815858)
> To put it another way, would they be better off being strays? I doubt it.

Adopting a dog will probably do it good, but a lot of people are buying dogs from dog breeders (and then the mentioned behavior happens, dogs left alone to bark in apartments). Should dogs be purposefully bred as pets, only to be left alone for hours on end?