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Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by nindalf on Saturday March 23, 2024 @04:58AM (#39798475)
Don’t know why it’s so difficult for some people to understand the paradox of tolerance. Allowing your media to be controlled by a foreign totalitarian adversary is a quick way to having your institutions and society undermined by them.
Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by perihelions on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:02AM (#39798490)
That is the standard argument for totalitarianism: safety and stability of society, at the expense of freedom. The US is doing something different.
Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by RandomLensman on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:07AM (#39798510)
Did the USSR have radio and TV stations in the US during the cold war? During WWII the US had a censorship operation - was that totalitarian?
Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by defrost on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:32AM (#39798603)
Interestingly, this very question was asked and addressed here on HN 32 days ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39428141

Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by RandomLensman on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:34AM (#39798610)
Yes, by me - thank you for looping that discussion back in.

It was meant to be rhetorical now - as the USSR did not have TV or radio stations in the US (but, yes, you could get USSR newspapers). Differentiating between different "attack vectors" isn't new.

Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by Jaxkr on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:04AM (#39798496)
Censoring foreign speech is also a slide towards totalitarianism...

Imagine if the U.S. banned a Chinese book series because we were concerned it would "undermine our institutions and society". Does that sound like a free country?

Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by cylemons on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:43AM (#39798649)
The problem here is that Tiktok is not merely "promoting totalitarianism", it is actively spying on it's users and sending their data to the Chinese government. Don't you think this warrants a ban?
Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by defrost on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:46AM (#39798663)
Sure, certainly, if it's also the case that all the US apps that are actively spying on their users and selling that data to the US three letter agencies also warrant banning.

From recent reports that's apparently most, if not all, of them.

As a quick follow up query, can Chinese, UK, Australian, etc. companies buy up data on US citizens from brokers? Is that OK, it's probably for business reasons after all .. or friendly five eyes cross border mutual spying to take the stink off.

Re:India's TikTok Ban Is a Cautionary Tale for the U.S. by cylemons on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @02:45AM (#39824854)
You have to look at it from a national security perspective rather than a moral one. A foreign adversary spying on your citizens is terrible. The only reason most countries dont ban US apps is either they are already friendly with the US or incapable of developing a local alternative.