The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of E. coli chemotaxis

Re:The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of ... by Kerb_ on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:59PM (#39782908)

That's cool and all, but do you give an equal amount of credit to Young Earth Creationists and regular creationists? Because both are equally based in faith. It is equally possible some holy being made fake dinosaur bones 6000 years ago to fool us, and no amount of scientific rigor can compete with a being with the foresight to know exactly how we would test the bones. At what point is "umm we obviously have evidence these bones are over 6000 years old" thinking in absolutes? In the meantime, I'm willing to be disrespected for thinking both forms of creationism are equally woo-woo in comparison to evolutionary theory.

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Re:The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of ... by basil-rash on Thursday March 21, 2024 @05:06PM (#39784404)

It’s important to understand why we think the bones are over 6,000 years old, and especially consider what assumptions we make in determining that age. Most importantly, the time invariance of physics.

Really it boils down to whether you believe the laws of physics we observe now have been constant throughout time. If you do you’re called an evolutionist, if you don’t you’re called a creationist. Neither side has any proof, nor is any proof fundamentally possible.

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Re:The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of ... by pixl97 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @09:20PM (#39786486)

Then please provide a consistent with observations theory on how physics has changed with time. Or do you have to throw thermodynamics out the window because you've gone and screwed causality? One side has a whole bunch of consistent observational evidence. The other side has a lot of frantic handwaving and inconsistent data points.

The point being is, creationists have zero idea why they think 6,000 is some magic number in this case, other than bob said so in a book. But yea, books are written by men and men are liars. Even looking at things like RNA/DNA mutation rates in known species it's pretty damned easy to see that things have been around a whole lot longer than 6k years.

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Re:The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of ... by basil-rash on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:22PM (#39786837)

> looking at things like RNA/DNA mutation rates in known species it's pretty damned easy to see that things have been around a whole lot longer than 6k years

Again, please understand the underlying assumptions you are making when you concoct statements like this. Namely: DNA/RNA started as a single form and has mutated at a constant rate since then. You have no evidence to support that, and I disagree with every component of it.

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Re:The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of ... by pixl97 on Friday March 22, 2024 @10:02AM (#39790862)

Then lay down a dissertation that at least provides some evidence you're correct.

Also, any guesses on why the 'modern' age is suddenly going in slow motion. Not exactly sure how you're going to pull that off without breaking chemistry completely.

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Re:The baffling intelligence of a single cell: The story of ... by basil-rash on Friday March 22, 2024 @07:47PM (#39796039)

There is no evidence one way or another, nor is any evidence possible. That is, indeed, the entire point.

And I'm not sure why you think the almighty creator of the universe would have trouble making chemistry... "work".

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