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Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by jinushaun on Monday May 14, 2012 @10:42PM (#3974594)
I hate when people list "buy a mac" as the first step for iOS development. Some of us already have one. In order to develop for Eclipse, I'd have to buy/own a computer as well.
Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by hristov on Monday May 14, 2012 @10:47PM (#3974602)
And some of us don't. It is presumed that you need a computer to run an IDE, but it is not presumed that you need a Mac. So saying that you need to have Mac to do something is quite an informative statement.
Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by bad_user on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @02:15AM (#3975184)
I own 5 personal computers, out of which 3 are desktops and 2 are laptops, with 2 of them running Windows, 2 Ubuntu and 1 of them Mac OS X.

Eclipse and Java work on all 5 computers. XCode works on only one. And because that OS X machine is a desktop, I barely ever use it, which is why I bought an Android instead of an iPhone.

Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by peterkelly on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @08:55AM (#3976306)
How many of those machines will run visual studio?
Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by bad_user on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @09:04AM (#3976345)
None for me, because I have no interest in Visual Studio, or any Windows-related development in general.

However, at least I could make it run on all 5, by means of VMWare. That's not an option I have with XCode.

Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by zanny on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @02:36AM (#3975261)
Do note they are working on IDE's for Android itself that would let you make apps on the device without the need for a secondary system.
Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by colonelxc on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @03:18AM (#3975392)
I'm not sure who you are referring to when you say "they", but there is an Android IDE for building android apps already on the Play store:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui...

I've only done some simple hello world type programs, but I was impressed.

Re:Wozniak calls for open Apple by saintfiends on Monday May 14, 2012 @10:55PM (#3974621)
Could you elaborate a better first step?