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Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by lozenge on Sunday March 17, 2024 @07:57PM (#39739144)
Take a look at page 79 of the first 'key document' https://www.mauriceblackburn.com.au/class-actions/join-a-cla...

The law said you need a license to provide taxi services. Uber and its drivers didn't have that license. So the lawsuit is for the damages caused by Uber's illegal behaviour.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by farhanhubble on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:18PM (#39739282)
But Uber wasn't and still isn't a taxi company. It's just an aggregator as they call it.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by Retric on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:19PM (#39739291)
They can call themselves a hotdog stand, that doesn’t mean the courts agree.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by nonethewiser on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:31PM (#39739354)
How are they a taxi company? Certainly not thought of that way by your average person. Its taxis vs ride sharing.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by NoPicklez on Sunday March 17, 2024 @10:07PM (#39739915)
I think your average person does think that way.

This entire debate and court case is between Taxi's and Uber, because they're competing by providing essentially the same thing.

The passenger clearly doesn't care if the person driving them from A to B is using a company vehicle vs their own vehicle. Ride sharing is a silly name, as you're not really sharing the ride if the driver isn't going to the same place are they.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by TillE on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:42PM (#39739422)
"Ride sharing" is the silliest euphemism, it's not sharing a ride unless the driver was going there already.

If you don't want to lump them in with taxis, they're a car service with contract workers. That's all they are.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by joshuaissac on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:40PM (#39739415)
> Certainly not thought of that way by your average person. Its taxis vs ride sharing

Uber operates primarily as a taxi service with an app

Ride sharing is a non-core feature called UberPool, which lets users share Uber taxis with other users.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by kijalo on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:39PM (#39739411)
Disagree there. I think most people would prefer uber over taxi for service/convenience/cost, but I doubt modern uber would be considered that different to a taxi service.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by Retric on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:55PM (#39739513)
“a type of vehicle for hire with a driver, used by a single passenger or small group of passengers, often for a non-shared ride. A taxicab conveys passengers between locations of their choice.” So yea that sounds like Uber/Lyft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi

I regularly see people say they’ll call a cab and then use Uber/Lyft.

Ride sharing generally means carpooling/picking up hitchhikers etc. Where the driver is going on the route anyway and is adding passengers for HOV access, gas money, or just conversation. https://rideshare.org/

Uber’s initial intention was carpooling where someone would put in their intended destination and could pick people up for money. However the business model clearly switched to a taxi model with a paid driver not staying at the destination. They still wanted to call it ride sharing because what they where doing was often blatantly illegal

PS: Their initial subsidized prices convinced many people to advocate for an exception which was often granted. That’s the bit that’s rarely talked about, they essentially bribed the general public.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by throwawaymaths on Monday March 18, 2024 @11:02AM (#39745526)
> Uber’s initial intention was carpooling where someone would put in their intended destination and could pick people up for money.

Historically incorrect. Uber started out as a black car service (with California tpc licenses). Lyft started as a pivot of the carpooling app zimride named after the founder.

> Their initial subsidized prices convinced many people to advocate for an exception which was often granted

That's not really what moved the needle. What moved the needle on exceptions was the sharp drop in drunk driving incidents and fatality.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by Retric on Monday March 18, 2024 @12:41PM (#39746746)
> Lyft started

Ahh ok.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by Retric on Monday March 18, 2024 @05:40PM (#39750386)
PS: There was sharing but it was time sharing Limos, so I can see getting those swapped.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/11101...

> Initially, the idea was for a timeshare limo service that could be ordered via an app. After the conference, the men went their separate ways. However, when Camp returned to San Francisco, he continued to be fixated on the idea and bought the domain name UberCab.com.

Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by gomox on Monday March 18, 2024 @03:34PM (#39748940)
We hereby witness the effectiveness of Uber's PR machine tasked with creating that category with the specific goal of evading taxicab regulations.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by hnick on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @01:34AM (#39753230)
Laws are not strongly typed.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by WheatMillington on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:31PM (#39739361)
Not a taxi company, just a company that takes fares to drive people around.
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by jimjimjim on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:21PM (#39739304)
if it walks like a duck and...
Re:Uber to pay $272M to Australian taxi operators by protocolture on Sunday March 17, 2024 @08:45PM (#39739447)
An unjust law, which was ignored justly.

You don't have LGBT people paying cops because they committed buggery before it was legalised.

Appealing to unjust laws for your argument is the weakest play in the book.

Uber didnt cause any damage, decades of taxi monopoly caused damage. Uber corrected the injustice.