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Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by d6e on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:35PM (#39730421)
HPV causes oral cancer in boys which is why they give it to boys.
Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by dlachausse on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:38PM (#39730436)
Also boys can infect girls with HPV.

Oh and in rare cases HPV can cause penile cancer.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by massover on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:44PM (#39730465)
One reason (besides moral) that a boy may want to get vaccinated against HPV is that HPV is linked to anal cancer.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...

I know people that if they were vaccinated against HPV like I am, they wouldn’t have needed anal cancer treatment.

It seems worth it to me.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by blindriver on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:48PM (#39730487)
The probability of getting HPV infection is very low. The probability of developing cancer given an existing HPV infection is very low. Very low x very low = extremely low.

There is no value in vaccinating every single child in the US for something that has an extremely low chance of occurring. That is the evil part of their plan, to force every child to get this vaccine. If sexually active people want to get the HPV vaccine, all the power to them, it's the forced nature that makes me angry.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by Zak on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:06PM (#39730587)
The CDC says:

"HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women get the virus at some point in their lives."

https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stats.htm

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by ceejayoz on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:06PM (#39730585)
https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stats.htm

> HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women get the virus at some point in their lives.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by cperciva on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:43PM (#39730462)
including boys who can't get cervical cancer

True enough (modulo questions of how trans people are identified) but while HPV is best known for causing cervical cancer, it also causes cancers of the penis, anus, mouth, and throat.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by f731d3a6-1e22 on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:01PM (#39730546)
> but while the HPV is best known for causing cervical cancer, it also causes cancers of the penis, anus, mouth, and throat.

or

> but while the HPV vaccine is best known for preventing cervical cancer, it also prevents cancers of the penis, anus, mouth, and throat.

FTFY

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by cperciva on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:05PM (#39730568)
I wrote what I did deliberately; I wasn't sure if any trials had tested the other cancers (although it would be incredibly surprising if they weren't similarly prevented).
Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by f731d3a6-1e22 on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:10PM (#39730611)
Makes sense

Still you wrote "HPV vaccine is best known for causing", thats what I wanted to fix

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by cperciva on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:15PM (#39730652)
Whoops! Thanks, I fixed that.
Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by irq on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:33PM (#39730409)
> I now regret getting the COVID vaccine for them and feel very guilty about it.

What do you regret exactly? Or feel guilty about? What negative outcome befell you or your kids?

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by blindriver on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:44PM (#39730466)
Both my kids (and the entire family) got COVID before the kids' vaccine was available late 2021. I really didn't think that it was necessary for my kids to get the vaccine given the fact they already had been infected, but the school at the time insisted. I was getting ready to join some other parents to try to fight it but then decided to listen to my wife and just go with the flow.

Now given everything we know, the COVID vaccine truly was unnecessary. I crumpled to peer pressure and got my kids injected with a drug that was completely unnecessary, even though I knew scientifically what was being said made absolutely no sense at all.

I think like many other parents who felt lied to, the next time big pharm tries to convince me that my kids or I need some sort of medication, I will react much much more skeptically and stick to my guns unless it actually passes my smell test fully.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by monkeydreams on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:03PM (#39730553)
The COVID vaccine showed a positive impact in terms of disease severity and long term impacts.

Patients who experience long-term COVID impacts often demonstrate a range of major problems including lowered IQ, brain fog, increased risk of ischemic events, etc.

In my opinion you were absolutely correct to vaccinate your children, just as parents of boys should vaccinate them against HPV; not only for their safety, but for the safety of their partners.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by blindriver on Saturday March 16, 2024 @08:07PM (#39730593)
> The COVID vaccine showed a positive impact in terms of disease severity and long term impacts.

We are talking about the children's vaccine.

The COVID vaccine showed no efficacy for children, on top of the already practically-nil symptoms that COVID itself had on children.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by irq on Saturday March 16, 2024 @09:00PM (#39730903)
> The COVID vaccine showed no efficacy for children

This is false. Please don’t spread misinformation here. Finally, please consider the possibility that your reasoning skills are not sufficient for the conclusions you’re making.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by blindriver on Sunday March 17, 2024 @02:56AM (#39732463)
You are 100% wrong. There is no dispute that the Covid vaccine had no efficacy for children. The data is irrefutable and well documented.
Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by ceejayoz on Sunday March 17, 2024 @06:02PM (#39738461)
There appears to be quite a bit of dispute.

https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-releases/2024/january...

> Children and adolescents who received one of the main COVID-19 vaccines were significantly protected from the illness and showed no increased signs of cardiac complications compared to young people who were not vaccinated, according to a new real-world study led by researchers from the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania and Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP). When the Delta variant rose to prominence, the study showed that vaccinated young people were 98 percent less likely to be infected than their unvaccinated peers, and data indicated that the vaccine’s effectiveness decline slightly when the Omicron variant became dominant. The paper was published today in Annals of Internal Medicine.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by evantbyrne on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:48PM (#39730489)
At this point COVID mRNA vaccine fear mongering is just shameful. So many excess deaths in America in unvaccinated populations. I haven't looked at the data recently, but vividly recall mortality rates hovering around 10:1 during peak times.
Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by blindriver on Sunday March 17, 2024 @02:59AM (#39732472)
By the time omicron became the prevalent variant, which is the time when the children’s vaccine became available, the notion of excess deaths for unvaccinated had vanished.

In terms of children specifically, overall the number of children who died from Covid was extremely small and almost all died because of underlying conditions not from Covid.

Re:What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed by evantbyrne on Sunday March 17, 2024 @11:11AM (#39734962)
COVID mortality has always been correlated with age. Even so, excess deaths indicate that the official stats are an undercount. And vaccination mandates had broader positive effects beyond just child mortality. Children/teens don't typically die from the flu, but still benefit from flu shots. The people around them who would otherwise be infected also benefited from vaccination drives.