Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by Sindisil on Saturday March 16, 2024 @11:06AM
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Neat idea. That solves everything.
Oh, one quick thing. I'm sure it's nothing, but I'm a bit slow.
How do you get new experts if no one gets to do the junior work that gives them the experience to become an expert?
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by reaperman on Saturday March 16, 2024 @11:10AM
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Unions and apprenticeships?
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by weebull on Saturday March 16, 2024 @12:28PM
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Firat it was people pushing plows, then horses pulled them, and now machines do the work a hundred people used to do.
This technology is no different.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by shotnothing on Friday March 22, 2024 @10:10AM
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but the ability to get horses to pull carts is not tied to expert knowledge of hand-pushing plows, neither is machinery to horse-pulling. This is not really the case for AI
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by osigurdson on Saturday March 16, 2024 @01:34PM
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I guess in the ideal world, everyone just does what they want, since everything will be so cheap. Enjoy chess? Study it and play against other humans. AI will of course crush you in any game. Enjoy accounting, radiology or programming? Same thing.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by throwuwu on Saturday March 16, 2024 @03:54PM
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Move to a higher level of abstraction and architecture. We’re leaving the era of hand wiring data structures and program logic the same way we left behind the era of hand wiring ICs and discrete components. Different skills will be needed.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by osigurdson on Saturday March 16, 2024 @07:41PM
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UML rises again! Maybe we will even have a unified process one day for creating software - a rational one no less.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by ardaoweo on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:09AM
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Only if you provide an alternative way for the newly unemployed to earn a living. Otherwise you just get crime, hunger and eventually war.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by maroonblazer on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:47AM
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When you consider how early we are in the evolution of software and the role it can play in our professional and personal lives, this seems like one of the easier problems to solve though.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by minkzilla on Saturday March 16, 2024 @11:39AM
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Political problems are much harder to solve than technical ones.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by osigurdson on Saturday March 16, 2024 @01:10PM
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It doesn't follow that reducing efficiency helps in the long run. If producing a good or service takes 10X less work than it used to, that good or service will become cheaper. The only force that can stop this is regulation.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by throwuwu on Saturday March 16, 2024 @04:00PM
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Jobs aren’t distributed out of some cookie jar. They are needs and wants and obligations that other people will pay to have fulfilled or taken off their hands. Figure out how to solve those problems and you’ll have all the work you could ever ask for.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by polycaster on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:21AM
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Hey over there. I’m very much grateful for the privilege of this boring job, which is not 100% of my job, but a huge part of it. Grateful because it allows me to feed a family of four. I’m sure in your Musk’esque utopia without boring work is place enough for all mankind. But please, don’t forget to draft a bridge that will bring us all over there and not just a bunch of filthy rich Silicon Valley assholes. Because that wouldn’t be a utopia. Thank you.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by osigurdson on Saturday March 16, 2024 @01:15PM
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That is a fair assessment. I am probably parroting Musk here a little. However, your main issue is access to food and resources, not boring work. I can't see why the price of everything goes to zero if there is no cost to make it.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by margorczynski on Saturday March 16, 2024 @01:51PM
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Because there's a finite amount of resources so almost always you'll run into scarcity?
Very well the wages might fall much quicker than the costs so for a handful it will be beneficial, for the rest not so much.
Re:AutoDev: Automated AI-driven development by Microsoft
by osigurdson on Saturday March 16, 2024 @11:39PM
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It might become way easier to start companies, as there won't be a need to nearly as many people. It might end up being more of a equalizing force in the end.
Those jobs should go away. Basically, the elimination of anything boring is ultimately a net good for humanity.