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Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by tomcam on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @12:43PM (#39693826)
I’ll be thrilled when Siri can spell my wife’s name correctly after 13 years of continuous usage and explicitly training it in her name. Admittedly her name is wildly complicated and totally unknown to the software folks at Apple: Ada

Also my radio-trained voice is so generic a caller every week-ish assumes I am a bot, so I’m pretty sure the problem isn’t me enunciation or accent.

Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by margorczynski on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @01:26PM (#39694500)
LLMs can't really spell as the smallest "block" of information they operate on are tokenized whole words. Same issue with e.g. arithmetic.
Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by jxy on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @02:04PM (#39695050)
Can we stop this kind of misinformation? Training a model to map a token to individual letters are no harder than training a model to be fluent at English. Arithmetics with small number of digits are achievable as well. You can just try a small 7B model yourself. If you don't know where to start, try the mistral instruct v0.2, and this is how it goes,

> [INST] Spell out the following word letter by letter: margorczynski [/INST] m - a - r - g - o - r - c - z - y - n - s - k - i

> So, the word "margorczynski" spelled out letter by letter is: m-a-r-g-o-r-c-z-y-n-s-k-i.

The text between `[INST]` and `[/INST]` is the input. The text after `[/INST]` is the output.

Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by margorczynski on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @02:51PM (#39695750)
Is Karpathy lying saying that word tokenization brings such problems that can be seen in many LLMs?

https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1657949234535211009

I'm not arguing that you can't use single chars just that many of the issues parent discussed are caused by this.

Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by imtringued on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @04:42PM (#39697213)
The easy solution is to create an additional dataset that is token aware. I.e. you take 1% of the dataset and take random tokens and split them into smaller tokens while expecting the same answer on the character level. This should force the model to learn multiple token representations of the same character strings.
Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by tintor on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @05:53PM (#39698025)
Letter-by-letter tokenization increases inference and training costs and latency (as you need more tokens)
Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by ta8645 on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @01:53PM (#39694873)
But they should be able to select the correct token for homophones, which amounts to the same thing.
Re:Figure 01 robot demos its OpenAI integration by ben_w on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @06:15PM (#39698244)
> Admittedly her name is wildly complicated and totally unknown to the software folks at Apple: Ada

Aye.

I was surprised this morning when it decided I had was talking about a "Mark of chain". 1/3rd of the time it hears "bedroom 100%" as "bedroom off".

When cooking dinner today, I asked for a "ten minute timer", it responded "for how long?" then confirmed my "ten minute minute timer".

Still better than Alexa, which kept telling us it couldn't find «kitchen» on Spotify even though we didn't even have Spotify.

And way better than the voice control on Mac OS Classic; back in the late 90s/early 00s, it interpreted 75% of my attempts to use it as "tell me a joke" (it wasn't even a good joke), and ignored 20%.