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Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by xyst on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:02PM (#39669828)
I was burned pretty hard by the “air” product line. There used to be a whole ton of issues related to throttling, cooling, keyboard, and hinge issues. I used this thing as a daily driver during college.

Ended up switching up to a MBP, which is still in use today.

Anybody have any experience with today’s hw? With Apple silicon/arm, were they able to fix the over heating issues; or was the internal chassis redesigned to improve airflow?

Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by goosedragons on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:07PM (#39669893)
Still sounds like it can get hot and throttle if pushed hard for a long period [0].

[0] https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/m3-macbook-air...

Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by whalesalad on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:36PM (#39670336)
They’re ultra portables. If your workload isn’t suited, MBP is the way to go.
Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by jb1991 on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:22PM (#39670127)
Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by whalesalad on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:35PM (#39670317)
All of my Air’s have been the best laptops I’ve ever owned. Current M2 air is an excellent rig.
Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by solarkraft on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:40PM (#39670393)
I'm confident that my M1 Air will last me another few years. It's quite great and I have no major criticism - which is rare for me.
Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by jauntywundrkind on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:53PM (#39670556)
What were you doing that prompted so much throttling? I have a sizablr array of microservices and databases I work on day to day, and it's such brief little

Personally I think the tradeoff is awesome for almost everyone. If you are a high powered user, a laptop fan pad is cheap and will prevent the 33% speed loss of throttling.

There's people who mod these laptops by bridging the heatsink to the case. It improves speed significantly. But it also makes the case uncomfortably hot under heavy use. I think this is a fine tradeoff Apple picked, to not optimize for speed. This is an Air. It should be very performant for most, just not under enduring load. I certainly would not call this an overheating issue.

Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by TYPE_FASTER on Monday March 11, 2024 @01:05PM (#39670733)
In my experience, yes, the thermal and energy profiles are vastly improved. I went from an Intel MBP that was constantly throttled due to temp to a 2020 MBP with a M1 (13" 16G of RAM). I've done a bunch of development on it, mostly running Pycharm and Docker. I got the fan to come on once while editing/transcoding using iMovie or ffmpeg (I forget, it's been a while), running a few containers in Docker, and editing code in Pycharm.

The hardware also "feels" better to me. I had issues with the keyboard and video connection with the Intel MBP that I have not had with the 2020 M1 MBP which gets carried in a backpack pretty frequently.

Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by D13Fd on Monday March 11, 2024 @01:23PM (#39670938)
I'm on the M2 MacBook Air, and it's pretty incredible. It runs cool, it's as fast as I could possibly want for daily tasks (I'm not doing video encoding or anything), and it's tiny. It's barely bigger than my iPad.

It's far faster than my top-end Intel MBP was. I haven't seen it struggle with anything yet.

I've found that where I used to take my iPad to do things (on the couch, in the car, etc.), now I take the MBA, because I might as well have my full computer setup. I've found I'm using my iPad a lot less overall.

I've been using Mac laptops since 2005, and it's easily the best I've ever had.

It's actually annoying that the MBPs are so much bigger and heavier for so little of an improvement in real-world usage (for non-gaming, non-video-editing tasks). They seem last-gen in comparison.

Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by hisnameisjimmy on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:01PM (#39671396)
I have an M1 Air 16gb and it's the best computer I've ever owned by such a wide margin that it's hard to believe they could improve it. Hard to overstate how dramatic an improvement it is relative to intel machines, especially if you tend to push your computer. It almost never heats up, and the battery lasts forever. Remarkable engineering.
Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by r00fus on Monday March 11, 2024 @03:13PM (#39672175)
Before Apple Silicon, I'd agree with you - but that was mostly because Intel couldn't produce a low-power chip.

Now with M series, the Airs are quite nice and usable for most people. I'm typing this on a stock M1 Air and it's been perfect for non-professional usage (ie, hobby stuff).

Re:Review: Apple's efficient M3 MacBook Airs are just about ... by lm28469 on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @06:27AM (#39677926)
The air line was bad until the m1 imho, now they're basically all you need unless you have very specific requirements