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Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by dcurtis on Saturday December 13, 2008 @04:21PM (#396964)
I love Dropbox and use it every day. But this article says the data is encrypted before being sent to the cloud, and that is not true. Because of that, it's not a good idea to put sensitive stuff on Dropbox, like "accounting" stuff or stock agreements.

For everything else, it is totally amazing.

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by jrnkntl on Saturday December 13, 2008 @05:49PM (#397035)
Update: http://www.getdropbox.com/faq#security-and-privacy Here it says it does encrypt (256bit AES over SSL) the files before sending them to the cloud.

I agree with you on the matter that you don't place sensitive stuff on it. But my 'accounting' stuff isn't that interesting for 3rd parties; as I also said in the comments on my blog: "I get your concerns and need for a private key. Also a key based on a combination of username and password would be the simplest solution to this problem. For me the encryption isn’t that of a big issue since 3rd parties viewing my files aren’t going to get anything out of it that should do damage to me. Of course, when you store sensitive data on it, you should also invest in some security on your part (like the mentioned TrueCrypt)."

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by dcurtis on Saturday December 13, 2008 @09:07PM (#397161)
Regarding your update: that's saying they encrypt the pipe between your computer and their servers using SSL. The files are still stored without encryption on their servers (as far as I can tell).
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by hxa7241 on Sunday December 14, 2008 @09:39AM (#397376)
Their FAQ item says the data is stored encrypted.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by inovica on Sunday December 14, 2008 @06:37AM (#397332)
Accounting stuff could be VERY interesting for 3rd parties if they're your competitors
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by jrnkntl on Sunday December 14, 2008 @06:45AM (#397334)
Competitors hacking into my dropbox account?
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by GavinB on Saturday December 13, 2008 @02:13PM (#396879)
Dropbox is awesome, miles ahead of the competition. My one complaint is that it doesn't seem to sync files unless they are closed. So when if I'm working on a manuscript for several hours, just pressing "save" doesn't back it up. I'd have to close and re-open for it to back up.

This wouldn't be an issue, but my laptop is wheezing the wheeze of imminent death.

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by huhtenberg on Saturday December 13, 2008 @04:56PM (#396993)
If I understand it correctly the Dropbox is an application-level file-monitoring thingy. It is not a filesystem-level real-time backup software, which is something that is substantially more complex to implement.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by jwilliams on Saturday December 13, 2008 @07:14PM (#397096)
Could you elaborate more on this? What triggers the sync in the application-level example?
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by huhtenberg on Saturday December 13, 2008 @11:45PM (#397223)
An OS notification does. The app subscribes to the directory content changes and the OS dispatches a notification (in whatever form) when the change happens.

See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365261.aspx for example.

Another option, of course, is a periodic explicit directory scan, but that's quite lame.

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by sachinag on Saturday December 13, 2008 @02:39PM (#396901)
Wow - I never noticed this, but you're absolutely right. It never even occurred to me that this would be possible, but now I wants it.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by whatusername on Saturday December 13, 2008 @08:03PM (#397115)
I'm running Tivoli CDP for files to do something like that. (actually i probably sould integrate it with dropbox come to think of it). Automtic save to another spot on the HD (every time that you save a file) Automatic sync to web/USB drive when they're plugged in/connected.

Saved me a couple of times actually - definately swear by having automated and easy backups.

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by grouchyOldGuy on Sunday December 14, 2008 @08:58AM (#397363)
This looks like a simple solution for me. I have a TrueCrypt volume that I keep account/password info in. I've been lazy and use email or ftp to get/send copies of it, so any given copy could have stale info in it. Yeah, I could rsync the file, but like I said, I'm lazy and didn't feel like configuring rsync between Windows XP and Linux. This looks like a good solution for me. Thanks!
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by colgur on Sunday December 14, 2008 @05:06PM (#397696)
PasswordSafe (Password Gorilla for Linux/Mac users) is a nice option for password management (which I'm sure you've seen and decided against). But the Truecrypt volume sync works very well. I've been keeping a PasswordSafe archive along with the Truecrypt volume across Linux, Windows, and Mac.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by k4st on Sunday December 14, 2008 @12:46AM (#397244)
Every time I come across a neat paper online, I download a PDF of it and then put it up onto Dropbox so I don't lose it.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by jmtame on Saturday December 13, 2008 @02:55PM (#396905)
Why I think it rox:

1) You can use it on Mac or PC (I have both, and transfer files between both) 2) You can instantly share folders with anyone else, all you need is their e-mail address 3) You see files that change or get added in real-time (Growl on a Mac makes this really slick)

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by netcan on Saturday December 13, 2008 @09:09PM (#397165)
I think what rox is that it does that without imposing itself at all. I have it installed & barely ever use it. (no real need). I still haven't uninstalled it. I feel no cost to having it installed. It could come bundled with an OS.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by windsurfer on Saturday December 13, 2008 @12:23PM (#396787)
For any advanced techie, the three main reasons (Backup, sync, sharing) for using DropBox are irrelevant. For ordinary users: sure! It sounds like a great solution. Let me explain.

I don't think anyone with valuable data would trust their only backup with an external "in-the-cloud" source. On top of that, most people's upload capacity is severely limited.

Syncing is accomplished with rsync or a network share on your home network. Most geeks will SSH into their home computers, etc.

Sharing via drop box cannot be any better than a personally managed web server. GIT/SVN on your server offers much more than drop box can.

On the other hand, maybe I just like to hack and get my hands dirty creating my own solutions.

Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by JesseAldridge on Saturday December 13, 2008 @01:36PM (#396835)
Have you tried DropBox? The app is so damn easy to use it's ridiculous. Sure there are other ways to do it, but the absolute lack of headaches makes DropBox way better than those other techniques you suggested.
Re:Dropbox, why it rox and how I (and others) use it. by sachinag on Saturday December 13, 2008 @12:35PM (#396797)
You're right about the on the other hand. :)

All of Dawdle.com's documents are up in the clouds thanks to Dropbox. I use it because it's easier than Parallel's Shared Folders functionality. How's that for buying something I don't need?