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Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by boringuser2 on Friday March 08, 2024 @12:33PM (#39643448)
A controversial take from this is that, aside from the health benefits, you will also accrue personal and professional benefits from not being fat.

I remember interviewing when I was chubbier post-COVID thinking that the only evidence the interviewer has of my self-control and drive is that I have none. Best case scenario, you are interviewing a temporarily embarrassed skinny person.

Noble prize winner James Watson, famous bluntly tell it like it is-er, said he didn't hire fat people for this reason.

(This has since been rectified by reinstating strength training and dietary controls, which I recommend.)

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by CharlesW on Friday March 08, 2024 @01:17PM (#39644062)
> …you will also accrue personal and professional benefits from not being fat.

As an overweight person, I don't think it's controversial. You'll also accrue personal and professional benefits from being a tall man and/or good-looking.

However, "fat people have no self-control" is still fatphobia and ignores the interplay of genetic, metabolic, physiological, cultural, socio-economic, and environmental factors that contribute to obesity. There are countless fat people who are incredibly smart and hard-working, and have exquisite discipline in most areas of their life.

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by boringuser2 on Friday March 08, 2024 @01:20PM (#39644107)
>fatphobia

First of all, I really find this term to be gross. You should be afraid of being unhealthy.

Second of all, are you posting that you have individual metabolic differences that substantially alter your caloric expenditure?

FYI most studies show very little innate caloric expenditure differences between human beings outside of what can be predicted based on their body mass. Ironically, heavier people burn more calories, not less, innately.

This makes sense because metabolic machinery is complex and so fundamental to life that it would obviously be very tightly tuned genetically.

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by CharlesW on Friday March 08, 2024 @01:27PM (#39644208)
> First of all, I really find this term to be gross.

Lodge a complaint with dictionaries, I guess? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fatph...

You can't agree with "you will accrue personal and professional benefits from not being fat" and then pretend fat-scrimination (is that better?) doesn't exist.

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by boringuser2 on Friday March 08, 2024 @01:30PM (#39644258)
Being negatively predisposed to bad things is both normal and healthy behavior.

Also, using heuristics to make judgments about situations is how intelligence works.

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by tekla on Friday March 08, 2024 @04:05PM (#39646490)
As a former obese person, the culture of America is excusing people for being fat is disgusting. I'm not saying you have to be supermodel thin, but being fat is literally bad in every single possible metric (Except for possibly surviving longer in a survival situation, which I presume most fat people will never be in)

Being fat is bad. Being a normal weight is better in every metric

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by boringuser2 on Friday March 08, 2024 @07:27PM (#39648168)
It also makes you feel like something as trivial as taking out your garbage out to the curb is a monumental physical task.

The quality of life improvement from not being obese is obscene.

Re:Having Self-Control Leads to Power [Study] by tasuki on Saturday March 09, 2024 @02:51AM (#39650194)
I have never met a fat person with "exquisite discipline". They had other positive qualities, but discipline was not over of them.

Also, I prefer to associate with people who are not fat. Is that a bad thing?