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Re:The quiet, pervasive devaluation of front end by karmakaze on Friday March 08, 2024 @09:56AM (#39641582)
This isn't only happening in front-end.

Entire backend teams can become unnecessary using cloud services like Firebase, then the front-end devs are the only devs.

Also on the back-end, SQL is often not considered a programming language.

I wouldn't get all twisted about sematics, schemantics. What people probably mean is that CSS/SQL aren't general purpose programming languages. Maybe you can make a complete webapp in CSS or SQL, but I wouldn't want to maintain one.

Re:The quiet, pervasive devaluation of front end by benreesman on Friday March 08, 2024 @10:44AM (#39642108)
As someone who has dealt with both recently, if you’re considering Firebase for anything, seriously consider Supabase instead.
Re:The quiet, pervasive devaluation of front end by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday March 08, 2024 @02:37PM (#39645317)
people used to program their VCR's, yet somehow I suspect no one would argue that calling VCR interfaces programming language is purely about semantics.

It turns out the word program has multiple meanings but we get to define what it means in our industry and CSS/HTML sure as shit aint it.

Re:The quiet, pervasive devaluation of front end by karmakaze on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:57PM (#39670619)
I wasn't serious about making an app in only SQL, but today I see "SQLPage – Building a full web application with nothing but SQL queries"[0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39666930