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Re: by prmoustache on Thursday March 07, 2024 @03:42AM (#39626655)
No, the responsibility is always on who is shooting at civilians. If you can't beat the Hamas in Gaza without shooting civilians, don't shoot, retreat in Israel and focus on protecting Israel.
Re: by flawn on Thursday March 07, 2024 @05:10AM (#39627214)
And that's the breaking point of the whole debate whether Israel's current way of defense is justified. This is literally THE point where most of the general population has split opinions and chooses to condemn or not Israel's actions.

Most people think killing thousands of people to eliminate a terrorist group is a trade-off that should be made which baffles my mind. Where do we live? No human life can be weighted upon anything else.

Re: by reducesuffering on Thursday March 07, 2024 @07:23AM (#39628183)
You realize they already tried this the past 15 years and still got 1140 Israelis killed 5 months ago?
Re: by modriano on Thursday March 07, 2024 @09:22AM (#39629394)
Um, the things Israel has done to Palestinian citizens in Gaza over the past 15 years (e.g. [0] - [3]) have been pretty horrific, as are the things Hamas has done to Israeli citizens. This situation didn't randomly start on October 7, 2023.

[0] https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2015/06/un-gaza-inqu...

[1] https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/13/israel-apparent-war-crim...

[2] https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2009/10/un-fact-find...

[3] https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unla...

Re: by throwaway6734 on Thursday March 07, 2024 @09:43AM (#39629662)
Do you feel the same way about the bombings in Germany and Japan during WW2?
Re: by EvgeniyZh on Thursday March 07, 2024 @12:56PM (#39632216)
Do you imply that if you're attacked by an army mixed with civilians you're just supposed to surrender and not make a single shot? Luckily people who wrote the Geneva and other conventions understood that it made zero sense.