An Unfamiliar World, 21st Century's problem with population decline

Re:An Unfamiliar World, 21st Century's problem with populati... by quantified on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @04:54PM (#39622150)

I doubt that the rising difficulty of energy extraction has anything to do with population leveling and decline. For advanced economies, it's the social changes that allow fewer children or disincentivize them. These were likely enabled by cheaper energy in the first place, but if the energy remained easy to extract they'd still be in motion.

Rising housing prices is a very direct result of pumping out more people and it has maybe a little to so with fertility rates.

Who wouldn't want the cost of rent to go down? Rent-extractors, primarily. Many fewer of them then renters, so this seems like an economic good.

That said, the comfortable carrying capacity of the Earth for human life (and all the other things still surviving with us) seems to be far less, so building systems to operate well under contraction, and working to contract to some rough level and the level off with a new system, seems prudent for the long haul.

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Re:An Unfamiliar World, 21st Century's problem with populati... by EchoChamberMan on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @09:19PM (#39624394)

https://www.victorpest.com/articles/what-humans-can-learn-fr...

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Re:An Unfamiliar World, 21st Century's problem with populati... by citrin_ru on Friday March 08, 2024 @03:38AM (#39639120)

Rising housing prices can co-exist with country population decline. Jobs (at least in western countries) tend to be more and more concentrated in large cities. So people move there and in combination with artificially limited supply (zoning and other laws) prices skyrocket. They decline far away from these cities/ regions but no one cares because there are no jobs there.

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