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Re:Z Kombinator by TazeTSchnitzel on Friday May 11, 2012 @06:33PM (#3961794)
The sad thing is that the Samwer brothers are real people who actually do this, and they're quite successful at it too: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the-germany-...
Re:Z Kombinator by jarek on Friday May 11, 2012 @06:47PM (#3961852)
I don't see it as sad at all. Limiting the target audience is a perfectly legitimate way of starting an MVP business. When they copy the idea, they apply huge amounts of process and local business knowledge (local laws, relationships, etc), which they then sell for profit. Everybody wins.
Re:Z Kombinator by jeffool on Friday May 11, 2012 @06:46PM (#3961847)
I'm surprised they're not revered, given the popularity of the claim that ideas aren't worth anything, and that it's about execution.
Re:Z Kombinator by gerrit on Friday May 11, 2012 @06:50PM (#3961861)
I guess the problem for a lot of people is, sometimes the samwers clone the execution too. In some cases even down to typos in the HTML source
Re:Z Kombinator by czzarr on Friday May 11, 2012 @07:27PM (#3961967)
html and css source is not execution. Getting distribution, partnerships, sales, etc. right is execution, especially since they don't clone tech-intensive companies (or at least not the tech-intensive parts)
Re:Z Kombinator by czzarr on Friday May 11, 2012 @06:44PM (#3961837)
why is that sad? Silicon VAlley claims ideas are worthless and execution is everything, until someone actually copies their idea.
Re:Z Kombinator by pan69 on Friday May 11, 2012 @09:01PM (#3962226)
I think there is a difference between copying an idea and improving on an idea.

A good example of this would Google who made a better search engine even though the idea of a search engine wasn't an original idea in it self, they just made a better one. Hence; execution.

Re:Z Kombinator by TazeTSchnitzel on Friday May 11, 2012 @06:56PM (#3961886)
Well, I'm not Silicon Valley. I just don't like the concept of simply copying someone else's idea as a business model, because you're piggybacking on someone else's idea, and it's uncreative.
Re:Z Kombinator by ArekDymalski on Saturday May 12, 2012 @03:39PM (#3964886)
I wonder what is your opinion about barbers, shop-owners, car manufactures or basically any business outside of the internet. I think that there's big difference between copying the business model and the product/service itself.
Re:Z Kombinator by TazeTSchnitzel on Sunday May 13, 2012 @09:33AM (#3966952)
It's more copying a company, its business model, idea, everything down to the fine details that bothers me. Not so much copying a business model or an idea.