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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by withinboredom on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @07:36AM (#39615252)
I was just in Oslo and Tromsø a couple of weeks ago. It was raining in Oslo. In February. In Tromsø, it was decidedly above freezing for a good portion of the time we were there. I don't think it's supposed to be above-freezing well up into the Arctic Circle in the middle of winter.

Where I live now (Netherlands), people tell me that just 20 years ago, there was ice-skating on the lakes/canals right now. Now, it is sunny and almost sweater weather instead of coat weather.

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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by locallost on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @08:04AM (#39615513)
You could ice skate on the canals in Amsterdam in 2018 late February early March (was there for a couple of days). The Earth is definitely warming, but ymmv with anecdotal evidence.
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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by bobbylarrybobby on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @09:35AM (#39616374)
The question is not “do we ever have normal weather?” but rather “how often do we have abnormal weather, and how abnormal is it?”.
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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by cowbolt on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @07:42AM (#39615304)
The weather in Norway has always been warmer than its latitude would imply (compared to ex. Anchorage) due to the Gulf stream.
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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by Filligree on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @08:56AM (#39616002)
Not to the point of rain in February. I grew up there, but the last decade-and-a-half the winters have gone completely to hell.
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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by thehappypm on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @10:25AM (#39616934)
Are you saying it never used to rain in February? That seems wildly inaccurate, it rains in Alaska year round..
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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by withinboredom on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @10:39AM (#39617077)
In 2003, it rained one day in Feb:

https://weatherspark.com/h/s/68697/2002/3/Historical-Weather...

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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by minkzilla on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @11:04AM (#39617343)
and in 1999 it rained many days

https://weatherspark.com/h/s/68697/1999/3/Historical-Weather...

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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by thehappypm on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @07:35PM (#39623667)
The point is, anecdotes aren’t science.

The weather is (hotter|colder) than my perceived normal for this time, therefore climate change is (real|a hoax)!

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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by Filligree on Thursday March 07, 2024 @07:26AM (#39628217)
You're looking at the data for Oslo, in the far south, while I was talking about northern Norway.
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Re:Ice-free summers in Arctic possible within next decade, s... by thehappypm on Friday March 08, 2024 @11:16PM (#39649327)
Did it rain in Tromso while you were there?
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