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Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by greg_V on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:17PM (#39609858)
That's not complacency, that's a feature. The key to peace in Europe is the unified free trade zone on one hand, but on the other it's also disarmament while relying on NATO. Besides putting territorial questions aside, one of the main requirements of joining NATO was to discontinue the draft! The entire security failure is by design, one that has been made a long time ago when the US force was way more capable and threatening in their stance. The annexation of Crimea was in a way calling that stance a bluff, and now everybody is juggling the question of rearmament like a hot potato. Because we were all calm when the saying was that no two countries which had McDonalds would go to war against one another - and then they did, and now we all have McDonalds but we don't have standing combat capable armies besides NATO operable specialized arms for a good reason.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by kuratkull on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @03:16AM (#39613558)
Are you sure? Estonia still has compulsory defense forces draft of 8 or 11 months for young men.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by greg_V on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:19AM (#39614358)
AFAIK small states are treated as exceptions because the conscription leaves you with the same amount of men as professional armies of bigger countries. But there has been a lot of talk in the past few years of changing this, but politically it would be immensely unpopular.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by unmole on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @07:17AM (#39615100)
Turkey has the second largest standing military in NATO and still has conscription.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by philwelch on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @09:20AM (#39616210)
The majority of NATO members had conscription at the time they joined NATO. Also, the United States has been pressuring NATO members to increase defense spending for decades; Trump’s threats to withdraw from NATO were a hardball negotiating tactic towards this longstanding foreign policy goal.