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Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by torlok on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @04:51PM (#39609575)
It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is for people to tell an invaded nation, with countless atrocities commited against them, to just give up and move on.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by The_Colonel on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:00PM (#39609659)
It's incredibly patronizing. Those silly Ukrainians don't know what they're doing, let me explain them what they should do. What's so wrong living under Russian yoke anyway? Russian ballet looks nice, it can't be that bad.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by hackandthink on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:10PM (#39609772)
Fighting to the last Ukrainian is even more patronizing.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by The_Colonel on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:20PM (#39609896)
Parroting Kremlin propaganda, nice.

It's the same spirit, Ukrainians don't know what they're doing, they just mindlessly obey orders to die for their NATO overlords.

Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by type0 on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:20PM (#39611494)
Real patronizing is not helping your friends with weapons after you promised to do so
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by kelipso on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:30PM (#39609987)
Plenty of countries have surrendered in the past. Like telling the Japanese they should surrender is so patronizing.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by The_Colonel on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:37PM (#39610038)
To be clear, are you equating WW2 Japan to Ukraine here?

Don't you see some major differences between the role of the two in their respective wars?

Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by kelipso on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:48PM (#39610118)
You are now moving the discussion from practicality to idealism. Doesn't really matter what ideals they have when they have to consider getting destroyed or not.
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by The_Colonel on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:00PM (#39610204)
The side with no idealism is bound to lose, because for individuals it's better to run than to fight. Tragedy of the commons.

But what you're doing is a category error. It's a completely different thing to ask your enemy to surrender from asking your ally (in a loose sense) to surrender.

Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by Wytwwww on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @04:24PM (#39621692)
Japan was facing a superpower with unlimited resources. Ukraine is facing a second-rate region power which has nothing going for them besides nukes and a large pool of servile and suicidal recruits (so a bit like Japan in that sense). Not exactly equivalent situations?
Re:EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy m... by ecoquant on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:32PM (#39622616)
You obviously are not well read on the subject or have any idea what you are talking about.

"They only have nuclear weapons"

Just beyond clueless.

What other subject can you lecture us on that you don't have the first clue about?