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Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by ffgjgf1 on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:43AM (#39601705)
> €10k/y you can afford a house+food+bills in most of Europe

I don’t see how that can be true if you want to live alone. Maybe in some of the poorer countries outside the EU.

Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by 01acheru on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:47AM (#39601735)
I'm from Italy and lived alone in Greece, Spain and Portugal so I know it is surely possible. And lived in cities not in the middle of nowhere.
Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by ben_w on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:09AM (#39601902)
Bulgaria's GDP per capita is €13,305/year (€1108.75/month), and the average net salary is €10,440/year (€870/month), so it's definitely possible if you're the kind of person who is willing to be arbitrarily ridiculous[0] with this kind of thing.

[0] For one thing, сигурно ще трябва да научиш български, which doesn't sound like a great use of time.

Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by coolThingsFirst on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:46AM (#39602150)
Even in Bulgaria 10K euros per year isn't going to get one a whole house + utilities + living expenses(food etc).
Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by ben_w on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:31PM (#39609996)
You're saying nearly half the workforce of Bulgaria doesn't have those things?
Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by coolThingsFirst on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @04:02AM (#39613854)
Entire house to themselves which they rent? They don’t.
Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by ben_w on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @06:39AM (#39614853)
Monthly rent €200: https://www.alo.bg/9325840

Monthly rent €450: https://www.property.bg/property-67234-fully-furnished-house...

Both are enough for bills and food, or at least seem to be (I don't know how property taxes work in Bulgaria).

And given that figure I gave you was average salary and thus won't cover kids or pensioners, mostly of the people at or below that threshold will be supporting a family with that money, not just themselves, and that's the main reason they won't be living alone.

FWIW, I could manage on €10k/year even though I live in Berlin, but I'm (a) weird and (b) also living with someone in an apartment. Still more space each than if we were trying to live on a train, though.

Back in the UK, you can also find cheap actually-a-house houses despite the nonsense that is UK housing: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/144969266#/?channel=R... (£380 ~= €444 / month) — I think £332/month should just about cover one person's food and bills, including council tax, in the UK, so I'd be surprised if one couldn't do at least that well in Bulgaria, where 5% of the population have an income of €208/month or less.

Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by jahnu on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:48AM (#39601740)
You could do it here in Vienna. Would be basic but not terrible at all.
Re:I spend £8,500 a year to live on a train by redeeman on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:33AM (#39602074)
could be done in denmark