European crash tester says carmakers must bring back physical controls

Re:European crash tester says carmakers must bring back phys... by userbinator on Monday March 04, 2024 @09:41PM (#39598860)

Not the least bit helped by the fact that there seem to be several models all called the "Model S", but with very different controls.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en_us/GUID-DEB259C...

For vehicles manufactured as of approximately January 2024: To sound the horn, press the middle of the steering yoke (or steering wheel). For vehicles manufactured prior to approximately January 2024: To sound the horn, press and hold the horn button on the right side of the steering yoke (or steering wheel).

"press and hold" doesn't seem like it'd be easy to do if all you wanted was a quick toot.

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Re:European crash tester says carmakers must bring back phys... by hn_throwaway_99 on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @12:00AM (#39599618)

Thanks for that link, which has images. Jesus, the pre-2024 horn is insane. It's one tiny button among many on the right side (of that stupid yoke, but I digress...) The whole point of having the horn in the middle of the steering wheel is you can just mash it with your palm, no need to hunt for anything. Really wonder how that ever got into a production car in the first place.

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Re:European crash tester says carmakers must bring back phys... by userbinator on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @12:23AM (#39599748)

The whole point of having the horn in the middle of the steering wheel is you can just mash it with your palm, no need to hunt for anything.

One can easily see this "meme" if one searches for images of "driver honking horn":

https://www.google.com/search?q=driver+honking+horn&tbm=isch

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Re:European crash tester says carmakers must bring back phys... by rjmunro on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @09:16AM (#39616167)

I always worry about the interaction of sounding the horn and the airbag firing, sending your arm into your face.

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Re:European crash tester says carmakers must bring back phys... by kergonath on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @02:02AM (#39600235)

> Really wonder how that ever got into a production car in the first place.

Teslas are the Dunning-Kruger cars. Designed by people who seemingly do not really know how to design cars (a wheel is boring; let’s put a yoke because video games! Look how cool we are! Also, touchscreens!) and built with poor quality control. I was not aware of the horn button, but if I had to guess, Tesla would be my first choice.

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