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Re:Apple hit with over 1.8B euro EU antitrust fine in Spotif... by bee_rider on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:21PM (#39595526)
I’m also not a lawyer but my understanding is that anti-trust law covers broader stuff than just monopoly busting. There’s no reason to require Apple to be a monopoly before we start to worry that they might be engaging in anti-competitive behavior.

IMO arguing about whether or not they are a monopoly is a losing pedantry battle that misses the point. People will bring up exact market share, and what exactly is a market—honestly, some good arguments about whether or not Apple is technically a monopoly—but, who cares? They are clearly a major player and so if they are not competing fairly that’s clearly a major problem.

Re:Apple hit with over 1.8B euro EU antitrust fine in Spotif... by scarface_74 on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:59PM (#39597313)
And how has that definition worked out for any tech company in the last 30 years?

How has any FTC action worked against a tech company in 30 years? Even Microsoft just got a slap on the wrist

In this case of Apple, we had a real judge in the Epic case saying that Apple is not a monopoly

Re:Apple hit with over 1.8B euro EU antitrust fine in Spotif... by bee_rider on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:04PM (#39597356)
What do you expect a definition to do?
Re:Apple hit with over 1.8B euro EU antitrust fine in Spotif... by scarface_74 on Monday March 04, 2024 @09:16PM (#39598695)
Well, the definition that the FTC and HN users have tried to proffer has utterly failed on the US justice system.

Related, it also failed in the civil case brought by Epic

Re:Apple hit with over 1.8B euro EU antitrust fine in Spotif... by smoldesu on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @01:43AM (#39600147)
Like you said, the US helped Carnegie stage actual massacres before the case was made that they were a monopoly. It's entirely feasible that Apple has and abuses monopoly power, but the politics of implicating them don't align yet.