Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by gfodor on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:07PM
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I skimmed through this and it was obviously laden with leftist memes. It’s important to become literate in these, which aren’t simply about what they are saying at face value but an ideological network of ideas.
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Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by ak217 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @04:44PM
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What you're saying is vague to the point of being malicious. You're poisoning discourse by labeling ideas as undesirable, but so broadly that you end up trying to smear the author instead.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by BriggyDwiggs42 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:21PM
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I don’t know what you could be saying other than that caring about poor people or welfare recipients is a leftist meme. That was pretty much all of the “leftism” in this article.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by rain_iwakura on Sunday March 03, 2024 @04:08PM
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The fact that the poster focuses on the term ("leftism") rather than on the substance is itself a red flag imo. It puts the discussion on a weird tripolar spectrum: you're either leftist, centrist, or rightwing (of which the poster is likely to posit themselves as a center, to avoid being called biased). I don't think it's terribly productive, and unless the article was calling for Bolshevik Revolution, I don't mind a certain bias. The fallacy here is that it's possible to come in with objective lens--it isn't.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by gfodor on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:03PM
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No, there is no fallacy here. You’re just ignorant. There are several signifying phrases and terms used here that are commonly used by people who have absorbed critical theory ideology.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by rain_iwakura on Monday March 04, 2024 @11:49PM
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sure man, woke mind virus has ravaged my brain lol.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by gfodor on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @01:37AM
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Nothing wrong with being ignorant. Unless you’re claiming you’re not ignorant and just accept the memes as non-biased. In which yeah your brain would be pretty ravaged if that were the case (tho I’ve never liked Musk’s characterization personally)
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by BriggyDwiggs42 on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @01:52AM
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So by memes you’re referring to words and grammatical constructions less than ideas? My comment, which I don’t think you ever responded to (nothing wrong with that just saying), was calling out the fact that you didn’t directly refute the ideas present in the article and are instead fixated on their presentation. If you attacked the ideas directly, I feel you’d only find a few ways to attack them, and that the primary idea you’d be attacking would be sympathy for the poor and such. I think it’s a cop out to avoid directly criticizing popular (on this site) ideas by attacking their presentation.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by gfodor on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:59PM
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You can start by noticing the explicit capitalization of the adjective “Black”
There are others but that is enough to bucket it in as someone who is dabbling in leftist memetics at a minimum
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by squigz on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:34PM
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Truly my only response to your comments here is: wow.
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by gfodor on Monday March 04, 2024 @09:12PM
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Yes, you probably also have been led to think that these memes are just "being normal" but these are deliberate changes to the language which originated in academic programs of critical theory. See for example: https://cssp.org/2020/03/recognizing-race-in-language-why-we...
Re:"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
by squigz on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @12:16AM
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Tell me more, please