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Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by dr1ver on Sunday March 03, 2024 @01:19PM (#39582942)
Volatility is a bit more predictable than price. And there are more complex formulae that also model volatility rather than treat it as a constant.
Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by lupire on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:18PM (#39583503)
If volatility is predictable, it would quickly be traded until it became unpredictable and unprofitable.
Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by throwawayFinX on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:10PM (#39584019)
dr1ver is correct here and you are not.

Actual volatility (not implied!) is much easier to predict than price.

It’s also much more difficult to trade than price changes. So your intuition about this is correct though.

It is not super difficult to predict tomorrows volatility sign (up/down compared to today) with +60% success. Even textbook GARCH models do well here.

If you could do that with the price, you’d quickly become filthy rich.

Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by richrichie on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:14PM (#39584065)
It is a well known empirical fact that volatility is mean reverting.
Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by slt2021 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @11:59PM (#39587185)
the hardest thing obviously is to time the moment when it will start mean reverting.

there is possibility you can take trading position with expectation of vol reverting to the mean, and vol will keep increasing (what happened to tesla and gamestop short sellers)

and vice versa

Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by helsinkiandrew on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:26AM (#39589174)
People have been trading options and futures on the volatility of the S&P500 for years:

https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/vix_options/

Re:The Trillion Dollar Equation [video] by throwawayFinX on Monday March 04, 2024 @11:06AM (#39591994)
This is also (slightly) incorrect.

When trading the VIX, you are trading the implied volatility not the actual (realized) volatility.

VIX represents the implied vol of options on S&P500 expiring 30 days into the future.

Trading the realized volatility is not easy :)