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Re:Homeless Mortality Data by tacocataco on Sunday March 03, 2024 @07:07AM (#39580338)
We could legalize all drugs so people can have access to clean drugs of a known potency.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by c048 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @07:13AM (#39580371)
Right, because homeless people totally wouldn't go for the cheapest fix, even if it comes from a back alley dealer.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by pikamau5 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @07:27AM (#39580412)
you're right, we should make all drugs cheap too!
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by c048 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @07:32AM (#39580429)
Good, so let's do that first before making an already terribly exploitative system even worse.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by catlifeonmars on Sunday March 03, 2024 @09:25AM (#39580997)
This where I think criminalization actually serves to increase exploitation and increase the incentives for exploitation.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by c048 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:22PM (#39584169)
I heavily disagree with that. Most legally available drugs are already out of reach for most of the homeless people (even more so in the US). These people are primarily defined by their financial status, if nothing else.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by catlifeonmars on Sunday March 03, 2024 @07:55PM (#39585986)
Maybe we are talking about different things. I mean that criminalizing drugs tends to make their use more risky as there are fewer quality controls and no legal recourse for drug users who get low quality or downright poisonous products. Vulnerable populations, like the homeless, who are already easy to exploit, become victims of this culturally and legally defined demarcation.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by c048 on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:24AM (#39588517)
The only way that I can see that happening is when the price would drop significantly enough so homeless people would prefer it over black-market dealers.

Keep in mind that there are a lot of legal practices, or legally obtainable things, that still have a large black market. Its been historically proven again and again that people will gladly take risks or a loss in quality over affordability.

Re:Homeless Mortality Data by dang on Sunday March 03, 2024 @10:55AM (#39581626)
Please make your substantive points thoughtfully and avoid snark, as the guidelines ask: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Re:Homeless Mortality Data by c048 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:38PM (#39583696)
A poor statement gets a poor response. Start looking at the head of this comment thread before you choose to chide me.

And there is nothing snarky about this. We've seen this exact scenario happen recently in certain areas of the US (e.g. Oregon) and Portugal where they eased off on criminalizing drugs use. You're talking about an economic weak group, where legality is less of an issue than cost. Them being 'homeless' is BY DEFINITION an indication of their poverty.

If you still want to double down on considering my post 'snarky', how can you also not say the same about 'https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=39580412&goto=item%3Fi...' in this very thread.

Re:Homeless Mortality Data by dang on Sunday March 03, 2024 @04:17PM (#39584624)
The GP comment may have been bad or wrong, but it didn't break the site guidelines as far as I can tell.

We need you (i.e. everyone commenting here) to follow HN's rules regardless of how badly other people's posts are. Moderation is inevitably inconsistent because we can't see everything; not even in the same thread.

Re:Homeless Mortality Data by misja111 on Sunday March 03, 2024 @11:23AM (#39581856)
Aren't most opiods legal already?