Re:JPEG XL and the Pareto Front
by kodabbb on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:46PM
(#39564404)
Looks like there are more savings coming on lossless AVIF: https://www.reddit.com/r/AV1/comments/1b3lh08/comment/kstmbr...
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:JPEG XL and the Pareto Front
by JyrkiAlakuijala on Friday March 01, 2024 @02:43PM
(#39565946)
Also more savings will come for JPEG XL soon.
Possibly mostly focused on medium and low quality.
will those require a bitstream change too?
Re:JPEG XL and the Pareto Front
by jonsneyers on Friday March 01, 2024 @03:22PM
(#39566351)
It is unlikely that there will be any bitstream changes in JPEG XL. There is still a lot of potential for encoder improvements within the current bitstream, both for lossy and for lossless.
Re:JPEG XL and the Pareto Front
by JyrkiAlakuijala on Friday March 01, 2024 @10:52PM
(#39569644)
No bitstream changes. In JPEG XL we have a 3-bit control field for each 8x8 square to guide which pixels participate in smoothing.
The heuristics (here https://github.com/libjxl/libjxl/blob/main/lib/jxl/enc_ar_co...) for choosing that value are quite primitive and produces only two values: no smoothing and some smoothing (values 0 and 4).
If we replace those heuristics with a search that tries out which of the values is closest to the original, we should get better quality, especially at the lowest bitrates where smoothing is important.