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Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday February 29, 2024 @01:28AM (#39546874)
I'm sceptical but optimistic.

The problem with turbofans (the most efficient jet engine at high subsonic speeds) is the fan, compressor and turbine have different optimal speeds. (The fan wants to spin slow to promote a high bypass ratio without tearing the blades apart while the compressor and turbine want to run at full power.)

The conventional solution is additional compressor and turbine stages. The novel one is the geared turbofan. Both, to my knowledge, are tuned for a specific airspeed and altitude. What these guys seem to be getting at is driving the compressor separately. That doesn't decouple the turbine from the fan, but if they're racing to Mach 3 and then dumping off, they don't need a fan. Altogether, there is an efficiency threshold past which a turbojet first-stage (probably rocket-supplemented) makes sense.

Where I'm sceptical is in choosing launch as the beachhead. If you have a better turbojet--particularly one pitching efficiency over thrust--you should be building drones. Probably missiles. You'll get more build opportunities at a smaller scale, lengthening your runway and speeding up your learning curve. You have more customers and a cleaner path to export. You get to segregate the subsonic and supersonic markets in engineering time and capital deployment. The only reason to go for space first are passion over practicality, a need for vaporware-insensitive investors or an additional design advantage not yet disclosed.

Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by mvkel on Thursday February 29, 2024 @01:37AM (#39546916)
Great points. So not only is the tech iffy, but the application is misguided.
Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday February 29, 2024 @02:00AM (#39547014)
> not only is the tech iffy

I make no comment on the quality of the tech–we don't know much about it. Only that based on how they describe it, the product-market fit seems forced for orbital launch.

Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by sjducb on Thursday February 29, 2024 @04:25AM (#39547781)
Space is better for marketing and gaining traction. I strongly suspect they’re quietly talking to missile manufacturers.
Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by mechhacker on Thursday February 29, 2024 @07:07AM (#39548335)
It would be interesting to see a cross section and what kind of variable geometry they are using to max out in the different flight regimes. I poked around and didn't see that, and I wonder if they could even publish that at this stage.
Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by ddev0 on Thursday February 29, 2024 @07:16AM (#39548393)
Insightful comment. Do you have any book or youtube recommendations for casual readers like me - A programmer who is fascinated by engines and gets intrusive thoughts like "why ever happened to jetcars? " ( that nagging question again popped up when i read this headline - "Wait, Efficient at any speed"? "wasn't that one of the problems chrysler faced in the 60s ? could this work for roadcars?" )
Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday February 29, 2024 @10:53AM (#39550991)
> Do you have any book or youtube recommendations

For a low-math text on aeronautical engineering at its core, the FAA's Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge [1][2] is hard to beat. It won't talk much about jet engines, though.

Real Engineering [3] and Mustard [4] tend to do a decent job surveying specific plane designs. And the Wikipedia pages are decently peppered with references.

Otherwise, getting into the weeds on engine design [5] and launch mechanics [6].

[1] https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/a...

[2] https://www.amazon.com/Pilots-Handbook-Aeronautical-Knowledg...

[3] https://www.youtube.com/@RealEngineering

[4] https://www.youtube.com/@

[5] https://www.amazon.com/Jet-Engines-Fundamentals-Theory-Opera...

[6] https://www.amazon.com/Design-Rockets-Launch-Vehicles-Second...

Re:New jet engine enables efficiency at every speed for chea... by mnw21cam on Thursday February 29, 2024 @12:23PM (#39552289)
The canonical book for this is "Rolls-Royce - The Jet Engine". It's an old book, but the principles are all there. And hey, someone has put a PDF up on the internet of it, findable by Google. http://www.valentiniweb.com/piermo/meccanica/mat/Rolls%20Roy...