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Re:Botanical gardens can cool city air by an average of 5°C by ggm on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:12PM (#39532107)
I don't disagree but if the choice is between edge forest and species support for species in edge forests, or carparks and species support for carpark friendly species, I would prefer to have edge forest species.

This is not re-wilding. We aren't trying to get urban badgers and lions.

So, in summary I think your critique is true but misplaced. Consider the viable alternatives, not the pipe dream.

When we de-populate on the next virus, we can re-forest for bears.

Re:Botanical gardens can cool city air by an average of 5°C by Affric on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @11:40PM (#39534084)
We actually can affect development patterns, deforestation, and afforestation through democracy.

I am not against Miyawaki forests but I think we need to recognise they are largely for people. They vastly improve important metrics for us but in the press for Miyawaki forests the benefits for forests are sometimes conflated with the benefits of Miyawaki forests.

It’s a little like when growing afforestation for the sake of timber is sold as a benefit to the environment as though it’s just like any other forest.

TFA is about urban overheating. Biodiversity is a powerful idea and valued aesthetic in our society but ultimately biodiversity will only be conserved through a cessation of deforestation and significant afforestation on large scales.

Re:Botanical gardens can cool city air by an average of 5°C by ggm on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @10:00PM (#39546014)
if TFA is about urban overheating, and if Miyawaki forests offset the problem then they should be supported as they address the problem. If they don't help damaged and marginalised species as much as connected scale forests, we need to know that but it doesn't mean we should not have Miyawaki forests.
Re:Botanical gardens can cool city air by an average of 5°C by ArunRaja on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @11:59PM (#39546520)
TFA...?
Re:Botanical gardens can cool city air by an average of 5°C by ggm on Thursday February 29, 2024 @03:05AM (#39547328)
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