US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes

Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by morkalork on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:08PM (#39532074)

Pretty much the perfect use case for AI. Take a repetative job (visually scanning images) that was probably done by dozens of analysts before, automate it, and have those analysts be 100x more productive checking the results. If I were a militant I'd be investing in circus tents or some other completely out-of-distribution type of camouflage.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by nick238 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:23PM (#39532216)

The article seems to seamlessly go from "computer vision" to "AI" which is an extremely loaded term from the last few years. It feels like the tech could be basically: align two photos separated by a day/week/month, do a difference. Repeat that for tens of thousands of square kilometers.

I'd call that "computer vision". If I explain that to a layperson, I might accidentally say AI, then they think ChatGPT, ..., Skynet, Terminator.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by parineum on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:56PM (#39532507)

Disregarding fictional things... The idea that computer vision and LLMs are different categories of thing is false, either being called AI is a result of marketing.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by hatthew on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:59PM (#39532527)

They are called AI because that is the name of the broader field that encompasses them

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by parineum on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @10:19AM (#39539046)

They are Machine Learning, a, so far, unsuccessful attempt at AI.

They aren't AI which is why the phrase "True AI" is so commonly used.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by whelp_24 on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @11:30AM (#39540201)

The term you are looking for is AGI, never heard of "true ai". And if machine learning failed, why are we using so much it in everyday life?

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by parineum on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @12:43PM (#39541271)

ML failed to produce AI, it's not a failure.

AGI is distinct from AI in that one is general and one is not. If you create an AI that can discover new mathematics but it can't write a paper about it, it's not AGI.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by whelp_24 on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @01:39PM (#39541997)

We have AI that can and has produced new mathematics. I don't understand what you think AI is. Machine learning enables computers to make decisions about things without explicit programing, and it is done by learning from data. It is a sort of intelligence, if not to the degree that we want (yet).

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by hatthew on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @09:05PM (#39545803)

I agree with your distinction between AI and AGI. Hasn't ML failed to produce AGI, but been wildly successful in producing AI?

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by morkalork on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @09:58PM (#39546002)

What you call AGI now is what I used to call AI and ML was just ML and statistics to me. But now AI can be everything from hidden markov chains to the computer player in a game as long as it makes a decision or prediction in some kind of of process, no matter how dumb. I gave up arguing about it long ago.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by __rito__ on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @11:01PM (#39533824)

If you use Deep Neural Nets, even for Computer Vision, it's still Deep Learning, and can be categorized as AI.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by pyuser583 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:56PM (#39532503)

I hear underground tunnels are popular.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by defrost on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @08:14PM (#39532641)

Which makes AI analytics on vegetation indexes, thermal imaging from dwell sensors, EM overpass surveys, and foot|vehicle traffic monitoring all the more attractive.

When a battalion disapears into an outside toilet that endpoints a line of changed vegetation that glows hot at night, chances are somethings up^H^H down.

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by RobRivera on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:21PM (#39532193)

See you guus are stupid, theyre gonna be looking for Army guys

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by pcdoodle on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:43PM (#39532407)

This is a horrible idea. When presented with a potential target, you're already biased to see an excuse to take human life. What happens when a person gets burnt out?

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by jmalicki on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @11:37PM (#39534067)

What happens when a person gets burnt out and makes mistakes?

Like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the_C...

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Re:US Used AI to Help Find Middle East Targets for Airstrikes by licheness on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @07:01PM (#39545085)

Because common AI attacks like data poisoning and model drift are a thing of the distant past...

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