Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to generative AI

Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by gambiting on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:02PM (#39529012)

>>for example, when you press the brakes there isn't and hasn't been for a long time a direct connection to the physical brakes

I'm sorry but you're getting it completely wrong. Brake by wire isn't legal anywhere in any market of the world and consequently there are zero cars implemented this way - every car currently on sale everywhere has to have a physical connection between the brake pedal and the actual brakes.

Throttle by wire on the other hand - sure. Nearly all new cars only have an electronic throttle.

Steer by wire is making progress, with Lexus making the first road legal car that has a steering wheel that's fully disconnected from the steering rack, with only electronic control.

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Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by iknowstuff on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:15PM (#39529179)

Lexus has a backup mechanical link it engages when a fault is detected. The Tesla Cybertruck is the first vehicle on the road with no such backup. They rely on redundancy of motors, power, and compute instead

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Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by gambiting on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:19PM (#39529251)

Does it have a backup link? According to this video:

https://youtu.be/agMrewRJTow?si=DrjfGsrKp5_ZazB-

There isn't a mechanical connection of any kind - the car just relies on triple(!) Backup for every component, including three fully independent power sources.

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Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by klik99 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:11PM (#39529122)

Thank you, yes that was probably literally the worst example I could have given.

But isn't there famously brake by wire in toyota EVs? And that physical connection is required as a fallback?

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Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by gambiting on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:17PM (#39529224)

Yes, they always have a physical fallback :-) and don't worry the systems like that do exist just not with brakes - it's an easy mistake to make.

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Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by dr_dshiv on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:48PM (#39529687)

Lots of cars brake by wire -- but not through the brake pedal.

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