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Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by jrockway on Monday February 26, 2024 @08:30PM (#39518950)
It's interesting that the airlines are fighting back against the intrusive searches that the TSA does. I always assumed the TSA was the revenue protection branch of the major air carriers. That's why they need to match the name on your boarding pass to your government ID; a secondary market for airline tickets would cost the airlines revenue. (Imagine that instead of "no cancellations" you could just give the ticket you no longer want to a friend. That's basically the same thing as stealing the CEO's yacht!) The security function of the TSA is just to provide the illusion that they do something. In the 2000s when the TSA was introduced, people were scared that they were going to be the next building demolition squad every time they got on a flight. Some fancy looking machines and long lines make it feel like someone's doing something. But it's all a disguise for their actual function; revenue protection.

So now an airline comes along and says "yeah that's all security theater, we do a background check, pay our own guy to check your ID, and just have you walk through a metal detector", and they're mad about it? It was their idea in the first place! Be careful about voting for the "leopards eating people's faces" party... they might eat your face too.

Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by cj on Monday February 26, 2024 @08:40PM (#39519018)
> people were scared that they were going to be the next building demolition squad every time they got on a flight. Some fancy looking machines and long lines make it feel like someone's doing something

I mean the only negative news I hear about planes is Boeing’s QA issues. When was the last terror attack on a plane?

Is it possible the metal detectors are actually working and not just security theater?

Or are other changes like a locked cockpit door the real reason consumer confidence in flying is high (only brought down by Boeing engineering issues)?

Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by eropple on Monday February 26, 2024 @08:51PM (#39519127)
> Is it possible the metal detectors are actually working and not just security theater?

The results have been consistently poor over a long period of time. Just one example: https://web.archive.org/web/20181009074941/http:/oversight.h...

It's possible that they are doing something for sure, but also possible they're just a tiger rock.

Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by invalidlogin on Monday February 26, 2024 @10:14PM (#39519735)
What is a tiger rock?
Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by xethos on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:05PM (#39520028)
Physically and visually impressive, but unlikely to get up and do anything
Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by cdelsolar on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @12:29AM (#39520480)
Simpsons reference. A rock that keeps tigers away. “You don’t see any tigers around here do you?”
Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by eesmith on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @12:33AM (#39520496)
And here is a clip of the relevant scene, from the episode "Much Apu About Nothing" (1996), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw

Quoting from its IMDB entry at https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0774432/characters/nm0810379 :

Lisa : Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers.

Homer : Uh-huh, and how does it work?

Lisa : It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock.

Homer : I see.

Lisa : But you don't see any tigers around, do you?

Homer : Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.

Re:Sky High Sabotage: Major Airlines Are Using TSA to Shut D... by sneak on Monday February 26, 2024 @08:53PM (#39519135)
The TSA misses substantial fractions of weapons at checkpoints per internal testing. What this means is that approximately no one is attempting to blow up or hijack planes, otherwise they would be successful, as the test show 40+ percent of weapons will make it through screening checkpoints.

It used to be twice that. They improved to only missing one third.