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Re:Mistral Large by onlyrealcuzzo on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:12AM (#39512967)
They compare to Gemini Pro 1.0...

Seems intentionally misleading.

Re:Mistral Large by speedgoose on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:37AM (#39513355)
Right. Gemini Pro 1.5 scores 81.9% on MMLU and is also above in a few other benchmarks.
Re:Mistral Large by onlyrealcuzzo on Monday February 26, 2024 @02:37PM (#39515889)
Which - importantly - is better than Mistral at 81.2% ...

Gemini Ultra scored 90% which is better than GPT-4.

This reads like a paid-for press release from Microsoft to pretend like they're almighty and Google is incompetent.

Re:Mistral Large by 7moritz7 on Monday February 26, 2024 @06:03PM (#39517906)
Didn't Gemini 1.0 Ultra turn out to be worse than GPT 4 Turbo in practice? Synthetic benchmarks aren't a perfect representation of anything.
Re:Mistral Large by maleldil on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @04:13AM (#39521889)
I think they're close enough that it depends on your use case. IME, which is mostly generating Python and shell code, Gemini Advanced is faster, less lazy and generates overall better solutions than GPT-4. It also seems to be more up-to-date with libraries and stuff. It can also directly go to URLs (e.g. summarise a paper), which GPT-4 refuses to do.
Re:Mistral Large by Nidhug on Monday February 26, 2024 @04:27PM (#39516950)
Doesn't MMLU have like 2-3% wrong answers anyways ?
Re:Mistral Large by jug on Monday February 26, 2024 @05:08PM (#39517305)
With 128K context (1M paid) compared to 32K. Man, Google is going to be a game changer for especially free AI tiers.

Edit: BTW, more Mistral benchmarks here: https://docs.mistral.ai/platform/endpoints/ TIL Mistral Small outperforms Mixtral 8x7B.

Re:Mistral Large by cyrusradfar on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:41AM (#39513411)
1.5 was probably released too late to be tested.
Re:Mistral Large by miohtama on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:49AM (#39513550)
Is 1.5 even publicly available yet?
Re:Mistral Large by jensensbutton on Monday February 26, 2024 @12:18PM (#39513975)
Yes
Re:Mistral Large by renewiltord on Monday February 26, 2024 @01:34PM (#39515096)
How do I use it? I only have access to 1.0 Ultra through Gemini Advanced.
Re:Mistral Large by irthomasthomas on Monday February 26, 2024 @02:14PM (#39515637)
Me too, I don't think it's public yet.
Re:Mistral Large by mewpmewp2 on Monday February 26, 2024 @05:18PM (#39517394)
And that doesn't count. Only pro 1.0 available for me through APIs. I need to be able to test for myself the capabilities.

As it stands best LLM available by API by Google is far behind GPT4.

Re:Mistral Large by klohto on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @12:57AM (#39520617)
it’s not public, there is waitlist
Re:Mistral Large by vy007vikas on Monday February 26, 2024 @12:41PM (#39514338)
But Ultra 1.0 is available to compare against, right?
Re:Mistral Large by mewpmewp2 on Monday February 26, 2024 @05:17PM (#39517386)
How can I get access to it? The best I can compare against is pro 1.0.

Most of my usecases are logic based on embedded content in the prompt and nothing available to me beats GPT-4 there.

Re:Mistral Large by MallocVoidstar on Monday February 26, 2024 @10:36PM (#39519874)
Ultra 1.0 is theoretically available via API, but it's only available to allowlisted customers, which seems to be a very small number right now. It's not generally available.
Re:Mistral Large by dieortin on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @01:20AM (#39520731)
Ultra 1.0 is the model behind Gemini Advanced, which is generally available.
Re:Mistral Large by MallocVoidstar on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @06:01AM (#39522623)
Not via an API, which is needed to perform proper tests.
Re:Mistral Large by lox on Monday February 26, 2024 @04:13PM (#39516820)
From the article:

> generally available through an API (next to GPT-4)