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Re:Vice website is shutting down by antegamisou on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:26PM (#39476196)
My thoughts as well.

It was pretty strong the first few years and rapidly declined in quality for the last 5 or so.

Re:Vice website is shutting down by ametrau on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:44PM (#39476346)
At some point they stopped being fun and challenging and just became weird and angry.

As much as I hate to say it (millenial), it's probably due to the age of millenials and genx now.

They should have pivoted a different way--more in line with the changing life stage of the readership.

Re:Vice website is shutting down by hackernewds on Friday February 23, 2024 @12:32AM (#39477320)
are you implying they swapped to catering to gen Z? why didn't that continue to work, when it did will millennials at that age
Re:Vice website is shutting down by cal85 on Friday February 23, 2024 @02:58AM (#39478035)
My sense is fewer Zoomers are interested in the grimy/underworld/rave vibe compared to Millennials and Gen X. It’s all the same to them.

My theory is that when Millennials were growing up there was still a strong ‘default culture’ that helped sustain a thriving counter-culture. One could move decisively between the two when bored/frazzled. Zoomers have grown up flailing around in a devolved soup of ideas. Everything’s edgy so nothing is.

Re:Vice website is shutting down by rsynnott on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:00AM (#39480016)
I would just like to point out that members/former of every counterculture back to at least the 50s have said this about the younger generation; it’s almost a cliche.
Re:Vice website is shutting down by BananaPuncakes on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:24AM (#39480265)
I'd have to disagree this time. I'm in nearly early 20's and there's not really a prevailing and counter culture. Just two dozen different intercting culture. The lack of a overbearing monoculture does make it hard to effectively rebel.
Re:Vice website is shutting down by tekla on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:50AM (#39482989)
So what is the counter culture these days?

I go to underground parties all the time and I actually don't see many people that seem younger than mid to late 20's.

Mostly late 20's early 30's millennials, and the crust punks of the 70's and 80's/

Re:Vice website is shutting down by sanderjd on Friday February 23, 2024 @07:33AM (#39479765)
Vice: Parenting. School choice: Hip or Dangerous?
Re:Vice website is shutting down by JeremyNT on Friday February 23, 2024 @10:01AM (#39481337)
Agree, the first few years it was really impressive, with a lot of high quality stuff coming out.

At the time I had the sense that they were burning money on very high quality (read: expensive) reporting in an effort to build up the brand, all while hoping to figure out how to make the financials work "later."

For some reason I had kind of assumed the strategy had succeeded, seeing as how they stuck around for so long. I guess in reality they just never figured out how to make it sustainable.