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Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by earthnail on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:08PM (#39475148)
App developer here. Sadly, it’s what works. Put differently: when users browse for apps, it’s usually when their need for sth that solves the problem is relatively high. Which means you have a much higher chance of converting that user right now during onboarding than anytime later in the lifecycle of your app.

I wish Apple properly displayed prices though instead of this sneaky vague “contains in-app purchases” text.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by FpUser on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:26PM (#39475283)
>"when users browse for apps, it’s usually when their need for sth that solves the problem is relatively high. Which means you have a much higher chance of converting that user right now during onboarding than anytime later in the lifecycle of your app."

I can't argue with this in general as I do not have the statistics. Personally however I just never give CC info unless I tried the thing and found out that it does work for me.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by aaomidi on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:07PM (#39476053)
Well good thing is you don’t need to on Apple. Just get the free trial and cancel immediately?
Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by happymellon on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:54AM (#39478801)
You can IAP and cancel?

Not a workflow I've tried.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by cortesoft on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:16PM (#39476528)
So do you just end up with a lot of unsolved problems? I get the principal, but does it end up hurting you in practice? Or do you end up solving the problem with a free tool? If so, I guess the product wasn’t really needed.
Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by rrrix1 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:34PM (#39476650)
Not OP, but some "problems" actually aren't.

More often, I'm looking for an easier / faster / better way to something I'm already doing, either because I want to do it _less_ (e.g. pay monthly bills) or I want to do it _more_ (e.g. find & read relevant news).

I'm Curious. Seeking innovation. Exploring.

Just because I can get water from a well with a bucket doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy modern plumbing and irrigation.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by FpUser on Friday February 23, 2024 @01:01AM (#39477461)
>"So do you just end up with a lot of unsolved problems?

All the non free tools I use and paid for do provide trial version which lets me evaluate it without pulling out CC. Wake up and look around. Plenty of those.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by TeMPOraL on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:13AM (#39478139)
And/or the problem is minor enough to not be worth the costs of subscription - costs that include not just the sticker monthly price, but also cognitive space taken by unnecessary, unwanted, forced ongoing relationship with a random third party, and all the value-add/upsell bullshit on top. Couple that with relatively low trust that a random app is not trying to scam you somehow...
Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by Guthur on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:40AM (#39478707)
None of them are really needed, we have survived for thousands of years without phones and computers.

Food is a problem i must solve, clicking on some cow clicker or whatever was never a problem until we made it one.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by carom on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:19AM (#39478184)
I uninstall so many apps like this. I would rather pay $2 up front.
Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by carstenhag on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:35AM (#39478681)
They do display prices of in-app-purchases last I know, somewhere in the app listing
Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by earthnail on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:26AM (#39479331)
Yes, but that price list is quite broken. A lot of apps have different price points - either for A/B testing, or because of discounts with partners, or educational discounts (we have a 50% discounts for students, for example).

Apple lists all prices in that list.

To make matters worse, if you ever decide to change your prices, you'll have both the old and the new prices in the list. Especially when you start out, you won't really know what a good price point is, and within a short amount of time the price list will be cluttered with all the prices you tried.

I'm sure Apple believes they're protecting the user here, but in reality they're serving neither the users or the developers with this.

Re:Show HN: Supermaven, the first code completion tool with ... by Repulsion9513 on Sunday February 25, 2024 @06:59AM (#39500079)
Put differently: when we ask them to give us payment details at the start, we know a significant percentage will forget to cancel (or FOMO) after their need is gone.