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Re:California EV sales are falling by legitster on Monday February 19, 2024 @12:01PM (#39432030)
EVs have a used car problem. They absolutely get decimated by depreciation. So total cost of ownership is higher than would otherwise be

And California's EV sales requirements means that manufacturers have been dumping bad/unprofitable cars into the market for years. Many of these cars barely function in colder weather, so they don't propagate out to other parts of the country.

Re:California EV sales are falling by thebruce87m on Monday February 19, 2024 @01:59PM (#39433336)
> EVs have a used car problem. They absolutely get decimated by depreciation.

I see this narrative pushed a lot, but never with any numbers. When I look at the depreciation of Teslas they seem to be 50% after 3 years, which is absolutely standard in the UK for any vehicle. What are “decimated” numbers?

Re:California EV sales are falling by genocidicbunny on Monday February 19, 2024 @03:26PM (#39434383)
My 8 year old ICE is still worth about 60% of what i paid for it, and that's with quite a lot of miles on it.
Re:California EV sales are falling by thebruce87m on Monday February 19, 2024 @03:31PM (#39434452)
I’m sure there are outliers, but yours is far from the norm in the UK at least.

> The average car depreciation will hit hardest in the first year of ownership. Generally, the drop will be around 15-35% in the first 12 months. And that will continue to rise up to 50% or more over three years.

> Year 1: 15-35% depreciation. 65-85% of the original value.

> Year 3: 40-60% depreciation. 40-65% of the original value.

> Year 5: 60-70% depreciation. 30-40% of the original value.

> Year 8-10: 80% depreciation. 20% of the original value.

https://motorway.co.uk/sell-my-car/guides/car-depreciation-g...

Re:California EV sales are falling by genocidicbunny on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @02:55AM (#39438948)
Perhaps, but mine is just a high-trim Mazda 6, so nothing particularly exotic or special. Perhaps Mazdas hold their value better, or this is more of a US situation.
Re:California EV sales are falling by Gibbon1 on Monday February 19, 2024 @04:41PM (#39435155)
Lot of EV's are basically lux cars. And those always have a sharp drop in price.

When I look at the non lux Chevy Bolt the used price doesn't seem that much off the tax and incentive adjusted price of a new one.