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Re:I taught the Iliad to Chinese teenagers by phist_mcgee on Sunday February 18, 2024 @11:14PM (#39426171)
Tangentially, this is where the works of Dan Harmon (Community, Rick and Morty) fall down; his shows slide into self-referential, in-group pleasing messes.
Re:I taught the Iliad to Chinese teenagers by Ludleth19 on Sunday February 18, 2024 @11:18PM (#39426185)
Hard agree.

I think this also simultaneously highlights the genius of someone like Felini with 8 1/2, referentiality done right to actually get at deeper themes/characterization, not just for the sake of referentiality itself.