News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules to allow more housing. Parent comment

Re:The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules t... by Apocryphon on Sunday February 18, 2024 @11:38AM (#39420437)
But those “rent-like fees” are not rents. HOA maintenance fees, while irritating, have no bearing on whether someone gas ownership over a condo or not. Do you decry SFH because you have to pay property tax, are they also “rent-like fees” which cause residents to be “permanently enslaved by rent”?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules t... by andrewmcwatters on Sunday February 18, 2024 @11:54AM (#39420608)
I think most housing should be in the form of single-family homes or in property that you own outright. So, yeah, ideally I don’t think people should have to pay property taxes.

But you need schools funded, streets maintained, etc.

Edit: Of course they’re maintenance fees; you don’t get to decide what’s being maintained or to what standard.

Why? Because you don’t own it.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules t... by Apocryphon on Sunday February 18, 2024 @11:57AM (#39420639)
Then your caviling about condos is wrongheaded, because you can actually own them (and townhouses) outright. The “rent-like fees” are often for maintenance costs for shared infrastructure in complexes.

Do you even know what you’re complaining about?

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules t... by saratogacx on Sunday February 18, 2024 @05:46PM (#39424294)
Also missing is that many (especially new) SFH developments have HOA's that can be nearly as restrictive and heavy handed as some condo boards.

When buying real estate there is plenty of documentation explaining exactly what you are owning and what you don't. If you don't find the price fits the description of what you're buying, you aren't in any obligation to follow through until a mutual deal has been made.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules t... by andrewmcwatters on Sunday February 18, 2024 @06:37PM (#39424689)
Yeah, I don’t agree that you truly own your home in an HOA when they tell you that you can’t paint your house a particular color, etc.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:The hottest trend in U.S. cities? Changing zoning rules t... by Apocryphon on Sunday February 18, 2024 @11:35PM (#39426249)
And you can't do whatever you'd like to the sidewalk in front of your SFH. In fact, you can't even do plenty on your property without getting permits from the city. So perhaps the practical distinction is merely a difference in degrees.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071012030337/http://www.dallas...

https://www.cyburbia.org/forums/threads/restricting-paint-co...

[ Parent | on HN ]