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Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by robertlagrant on Friday February 16, 2024 @12:31PM (#39400153)
> This sounds to me like typical toxic silicon valley startup mindset.

I think this is naive cynicism, as it were. Lots of companies are started by people who eventually want to sell them, be it after 5 years or 50. Being biased against Silicon Valley won't give you a good handle on this stuff.

Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by creer on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:10PM (#39400766)
Further to this, even if you don't intend to sell the company, it's only really worth something besides the salary or dividends you draw for yourself if it is generally in a condition where it could potentially sell.

If it's legally dodgy; if accounting is a total mess; if it relies entirely on personal connections or favors; if tax returns or licensing are a mess; if there is no documentation; if there is no consideration for bus encounters; etc; etc - then it would take major work before it could be sold and it is worth little until that work is done. (Besides the current payouts to the owner which only exist as long as the owner works on it.) That's because if the owner quits or is incapacitated, the company just about doesn't exist anymore.

Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by chinchilla2020 on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:09PM (#39400759)
Not true at all. The local corner store, laundromat, and plumbing company are usually not something that can be sold easily. If they do, it takes years to find a buyer and they are getting a low sale price.

Tech startups had high multipliers in the past 10 years thanks to dumb money, low interest rates, and lot of hope. Most of those things are drying up and many tech startups that had decent valuations are now worthless.

Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by creer on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:17PM (#39400864)
> If they do, it takes years to find a buyer and they are getting a low sale price.

Is this true of standard businesses like laundromat or plumbing?

Or is it a matter of such businesses rarely being in a condition that makes a sale easy? If these are in a good condition accounting-wise for example, they should integrate readily and for a basic multiple of sales into one of the neighbors?

What I have seen is unrealistic prices - and that's another matter.

Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by BiteCode_dev on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:10PM (#39400765)
Ferrero, Mars, Ikea, Ikea and Valve prove that you can get very big and stay private.

Not everyone wants to IPO, or sell to big player.

You may want it to stay in the family, or protect the original culture. Maybe you found someone in your team that will be a great CEO.

Maybe you like that life.

You don't even need to big huge, look at 37 signal.

Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by robertlagrant on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:21PM (#39400922)
Yes, of course there are different options. I'm not saying there's only one option. I'm saying there are more possibilities, not fewer. I.e. selling isn't some weird, Silicon Valley mindset.
Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:20PM (#39400909)
then do the calculations in 5 or 50 years.
Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by robertlagrant on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:34PM (#39401110)
I don't understand your mindset that says you should decide when other people multiply some numbers.
Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:50PM (#39401315)
I don't understand how anyone misread that so badly while genuinely attempting to respond.

I suppose we can both say there are things we don't understand.

Re:My Sixth Year as a Bootstrapped Founder by robertlagrant on Saturday February 17, 2024 @10:40AM (#39410430)
> I don't understand how anyone misread that so badly while genuinely attempting to respond.

Probably because when given a chance, you don't take the chance to explain yourself better, and just do a junior high Uno reverse card response.