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Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by newZWhoDis on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:28AM (#39399174)
I feel the same way about alcohol, it’s 20+ years behind the stigma curve though.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by officeplant on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:31AM (#39399230)
My boss likes to say "wow you must be drinking some strong stuff on the weekends after this job." Because apparently that's the ideal way to cope with abusive workloads.

In reality its just sleep, anime, and weed.

Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by always2slow on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:49AM (#39399532)
This is your boss subtly commenting that your weed use is noticeable.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by officeplant on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:54AM (#39399619)
It's just old oilfield habits to these guys. He gets confused anytime someone doesn't line up with the old ways. (leading to long racist lunch rants)
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by slily on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:07PM (#39400723)
He's not far off since you do cope with a depressant drug, just a different one with a different risk profile. And I don't know about you, but it tanks my productivity worse than alcohol all the way through the next day depending on the form. So maybe he's making a comment about that.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by officeplant on Friday February 16, 2024 @02:27PM (#39401798)
Weed isn't wholly a depressant, nor is it classified as one due to the stimulant and hallucinogenic effects it also includes.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by Jcampuzano2 on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:30AM (#39399208)
I also don't drink alcohol. Quit about 3 years ago after hearing how bad it also is for your health and just from hating the feeling the next morning. But I agree this one will be a harder one to kick.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by dmoy on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:44AM (#39399462)
I don't drink a lot of alcohol, but I make batches of kalja at home for daily consumption - probably 0.5% abv because I'm impatient and bad at it. (And I'm, uh, using bread yeast lol)

It probably averages out to the equivalent of a beer every week or two.

Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by hiq on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:51AM (#39399556)
The big difference is that you don't have to drink alcohol if an unknown person next to you is drinking, while passive smoking is a real thing. Granted, peer pressure lead people to drink more than they would, but it's still something you can fight against. There's no willpower that will help you against passive smoking.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by bill_joy_fanboy on Friday February 16, 2024 @12:00PM (#39399705)
Alcohol has negative social externalities just like cigarettes. People who drink often drive and make other bad decisions that don't just damage the drinker.

The negative social externality may not be "second hand drinking", but it exists nonetheless.

Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by kazinator on Friday February 16, 2024 @12:07PM (#39399806)
But you don't have to smoke and do something else to be harmful.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by Domenic_S on Friday February 16, 2024 @12:34PM (#39400216)
Sure you do. Smoke and walk around in public. Smoke and stand in the middle of the sidewalk. etc
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by kazinator on Friday February 16, 2024 @02:12PM (#39401610)
The point is that these are not necessary. Someone is not harmed if you drink in the same room as them and do nothing else.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by zepolen on Friday February 16, 2024 @04:51PM (#39403453)
Not true they might drink too much and start complaining about me smoking.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by slily on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:03PM (#39400655)
"People who drink often drive" is a nonsensical statement. People lose their driver's licenses permanently for drinking and driving. People get high on cannabis and drive too. And people smoke cannabis outdoors, which smells worse than cigarettes if you ask me. So as far as public nuisance goes you get the worst of both worlds... except cannabis is the "cool" drug for younger generations, so people will bend over backwards to make excuses and berate you for criticizing it :)
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by s_dev on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:57AM (#39399664)
Yes but alcohol is going have a far far bigger impact on their temperament and behaviour than even 100 cigarettes in a row.
Re:Smoking has long-term effects on the immune system by slily on Friday February 16, 2024 @12:46PM (#39400398)
You're actually 100 years behind it.