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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by neurostimulant on Friday February 16, 2024 @01:20AM (#39393830)
> if you write an app that lets you run other apps inside it how do we make sure your app does security correctly?

But browsers already have this security features that isolates websites from each other? How come PWA, which essentially just placing a website shortcut in the home screen and hiding browser ui, affect browser's existing security features?

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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by anon373839 on Friday February 16, 2024 @04:14AM (#39394849)
It doesn’t, of course. Apple’s real concern is that if Chrome is allowed to host standalone PWAs, it can also remove some of the unnecessary pain pointed that Apple’s Safari maliciously injected to kneecap PWAs in the first place. For example, Chrome could make it easy for users to install a PWA. Chrome could support more web standards. Etc. This would create a true alternative to the App Store, with no Apple tax, and of course Apple isn’t going to let that happen without kicking and screaming.
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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by scarface_74 on Friday February 16, 2024 @08:43AM (#39396872)
Yes because PWAs are so popular on Android
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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by Pesthuf on Friday February 16, 2024 @09:09AM (#39397190)
They’re not as necessary on Android because Android has alternative App distribution methods.
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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by scarface_74 on Friday February 16, 2024 @09:13AM (#39397250)
Right. Because downloading from alternate app stores or from the web is really easier than creating a PWA and is easier for discoverability.

But that is a new retort when I ask that same question most of the time. Often it’s because of mean old Apple that PWAs aren’t more popular on Android.

But since now that there will be alternate means of distribution in the EU, you should be okay with no PWAs in the EU?

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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by dns_snek on Saturday February 17, 2024 @01:43PM (#39412129)
Do you have a coherent point you're trying to make? We're discussing Apple here. These wanna be "gotchas" aren't nearly as clever as you think.

> But since now that there will be alternate means of distribution in the EU, you should be okay with no PWAs in the EU?

I see, a hardened Apple defender. Nice show of cards! There are no alternative means of distribution in the EU that don't involve paying large sums of money to Apple, but you already knew that.

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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by JustExAWS on Saturday February 17, 2024 @02:08PM (#39412384)
My points are the same neither consumers or the companies that make most of the money from mobile care about PWAs

My second point is if it just Apple and Safari holding back the adoption of PWAs, then why aren’t they more popular on Android if Chrome is so much better?

Why aren’t companies creating PWAs for Android to avoid the same 30% cut? Are they okay with paying “large sums of money” to Google?

Why aren’t they using third party app stores on Android or letting users download directly from them?

(And the HN gods are mad at me for some reason)

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Re:Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on... by AlienRobot on Friday February 16, 2024 @07:22AM (#39395977)
I thought the whole point of PWAs was that they could access user files directly, which they wouldn't be able to as a webpage inside a browser's sandbox? If that's not the case it's just a bookmark.
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