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Re:Goodbye Auth0 by remram on Thursday February 15, 2024 @09:55AM (#39383364)
What you're describing is better captured by the word "lucky". "Blessed" is lucky plus an acknowledgement that this luck was granted to you on purpose by a higher power, so you deserved it in a karmic way (though not operational way). It really irks me too.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by simplify on Thursday February 15, 2024 @04:37PM (#39389316)
"Blessed" does not necessarily imply karmic nor deserving. Many Christians will say they've been blessed and recognize they don't deserve it.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by withinboredom on Friday February 16, 2024 @02:38AM (#39394280)
Someone/something divine must do the blessing. This is in the definition of bless, so how do you conclude it doesn't? To gain the favor of a god/goddess means the divine creature believes you deserve it, even if you don't think it to be so.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by scott_w on Saturday February 17, 2024 @04:36AM (#39407904)
Christianity explicitly states pride is a sin. They’re not supposed to pray for God’s favour in this life but to be given the strength to be good so they can be allowed salvation in the next life.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by withinboredom on Saturday February 17, 2024 @09:30AM (#39409700)
I never said anything about Christianity or prayer.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by scott_w on Saturday February 17, 2024 @10:19AM (#39410196)
I never said you did, I just used it as a counter to what you said: that blessing is about getting favour in this world from a divine being. It helps that it's also the world's largest religion.

In fact, Christianity explicitly glorifies suffering and martyrdom so the Christian God is hardly giving good things to good people...

Re:Goodbye Auth0 by withinboredom on Saturday February 17, 2024 @10:38AM (#39410406)
A blessing isn't necessarily given to a good person or by a Christian god, nor does the person even need to know they have a blessing.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by simplify on Saturday February 17, 2024 @11:40PM (#39416265)
Grace literally means to bless without deserving. I think you're being too rigid in your thought process.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by withinboredom on Sunday February 18, 2024 @01:26AM (#39416723)
We are literally talking about the internationally accepted definition of a word. Your own personal definition is not portable.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by simplify on Monday February 19, 2024 @11:24AM (#39431542)
Christianity is an international religion thousands of years old. It's not a personal definition.
Re:Goodbye Auth0 by withinboredom on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:01AM (#39438463)
And none of it was originally written in English. The English words were chosen because of their definitions, so that it made sense. I’m not sure what you mean by this.

In other news, I come from a family of Christian pastors and I’m quite informed on what words mean in the Bible and which ones actually matter. You are mixing several ones into a single word that has a singular definition that is well defined.

Re:Goodbye Auth0 by Chris2048 on Thursday February 15, 2024 @05:43PM (#39390288)
> "Blessed" is lucky plus an acknowledgement that this luck was granted to you on purpose by a higher power, so you deserved it in a karmic way

The karmic component would make it a reward. So much as you are blessed with resources, you are then able to make sacrifices that aren't necessarily enviable.