Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from 1990, can we open it?

Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by dzdt on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:02AM (#39358220)

Somehow the author doesnt recognize that emulation is a legitimate answer to this question. Yes he was able to open the document, by using the original software on a highly accurate emulation of the original system. Everything beyond that point is a different question: can we get it inside of a modern word processor.

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by londons_explore on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:22AM (#39358411)

Emulation is starting to get gaps too... for example, running Windows 95 in an emulator on a modern machine is getting harder and harder (emulators like vmware and virtualbox don't emulate the CPU speed accurately, which causes the system not to boot, and they also don't emulate various paging behaviours of old intel CPU's accurately which causes windows applications to crash within a few seconds of starting).

There are binary patches to windows 95 to fix these issues, but as the system gets older it's less likely people will put effort into binary patching it for compatibility with modern systems. And if it were more obscure, you'd be SOL.

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by fourfour3 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:40AM (#39358607)

Whole system emulation like 86box does a much better job of emulating older hardware and OSes - I use it quite a bit for DOS/Win3.11/Win9x era stuff.

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by thawkth on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @11:46AM (#39359593)

PCem is far, far better for Win95 emulation - it can handle a P2 233 and a Voodoo3 fairly accurately - and tons and tons of hardware on top of that.

It’s amazing. I keep a 95 / 98 and some other vintage machines around as a hobby, but being able to play Unreal in an emulator with 3D acceleration blows my mind

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by fourfour3 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:11PM (#39364670)

How have you found the Voodoo 3 emulation? I have found it a bit ropey in 86box/PCem - but I find voodoo 1 or 2 works really well.

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by Narishma on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @01:29PM (#39360960)

Those are virtual machines, not emulators. If you use a proper emulator like PCem or 86box, Windows 95 works fine.

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @02:12PM (#39361470)

> running Windows 95 in an emulator on a modern machine is getting harder and harder (emulators like vmware and virtualbox don't emulate the CPU speed accurately, which causes the system not to boot, and they also don't emulate various paging behaviours of old intel CPU's accurately which causes windows applications to crash within a few seconds of starting)

I thought the normal way to run Windows 95 was in dosbox?

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by jgrahamc on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:12AM (#39358313)

Sort of. What I wanted was to be able to get a PDF version of it. I was hoping that a modern word processor would read the file format, and LibreOffice did. But it's also true that using emulation I was able to get a PDF (albeit one that has different fonts).

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Re:Original WWW proposal is a Word for Macintosh 4 file from... by nextaccountic on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @12:54PM (#39360526)

> it's also true that using emulation I was able to get a PDF (albeit one that has different fonts).

Maybe you needed to have the right fonts installed in your emulated mac? Another comment in this thread pointed out this

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