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Re:Stable-Audio-Demo by fenomas on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:16AM (#39356943)
Wikipedia:

> In copyright law, a derivative work is an expressive creation that includes major copyrightable elements of ... the underlying work.

A trained model fails that on two counts, doesn't it? Both the "includes" part, and the fact that a model is itself not an expressive work of authorship.

Re:Stable-Audio-Demo by thuuuomas on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:31AM (#39358496)
Curating training data is an exercise in editorial judgement.
Re:Stable-Audio-Demo by fenomas on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:01PM (#39365051)
If a trained model doesn't meet the definition of being a derivative work, it doesn't matter whether the data it's not a derivative work of was curated.
Re:Stable-Audio-Demo by frabcus on Thursday February 15, 2024 @03:27PM (#39388287)
I'm not sure. If it fails, then I reckon a binary compiled from source code fails top.

There's nothing creative about the act of a compiler, it is automatic, just like the training run of an LLM.

And no part of the original source code is in the binary output.

And yet, binaries are a derived work from the source code that went into them.

So something is up! I am not a lawyer though.

Re:Stable-Audio-Demo by fenomas on Thursday February 15, 2024 @08:46PM (#39392047)
> And no part of the original source code is in the binary output.

It's not about whether the binary includes the raw text of the source, but whether it copies the expressive content. Anything expressive (i.e. copyrightable) in a compiled binary must have come from the sourcecode, so that's what makes it a derived work.

But the same isn't true of LLMs, which are more like "data about their inputs", than "a transformed version of their inputs".