News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by jqpabc123 on Monday February 12, 2024 @04:33PM (#39350815)
The intent of the initial founder also allegedly was to defraud "investors".

Explain how "intent" is logically derived.

The "intent" of Satoshi Nakamoto may have been the same --- as was the result --- he became rich by wasting electricity.

Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by c0balt on Monday February 12, 2024 @04:42PM (#39350922)
> The intent of the initial founder also allegedly was to defraud "investors". > > Explain how "intent" is logically derived.

If someone advertises a cryptocurrency to bring you money as an "investment" but has the intent to take your money and not produce more value with it.

A project may aim to achieve a goal but fail to do it for various reasons. There a legitimate, e.g., technical challenges, and illegitimate reasons, e.g., misuse of funds.

The same way that, e.g., a publicly traded company can legitimately go bankrupt, without defrauding/ scamming customers.

The distinction of legitimacy/ intent was meant in reference to the legal usage. One can argue about these being logical.

Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by jqpabc123 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:42AM (#39358619)
.. but has the intent to take your money and not produce more value with it.

You keep missing the point. "Intent" is an assumption here, not a fact --- and one that can be applied with equal veracity to any cryptocurrency.

Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by DANmode on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @02:17AM (#39355369)
How many Bitcoin has Satoshi cashed out, again?
Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by jqpabc123 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:46AM (#39358665)
So in your opinion, it's not a fraud until it's converted into "real" currency?

In other words, crypto isn't real money. And by extension, selling people "fake" money is called what?

Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by DANmode on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @02:30PM (#39361729)
Satoshi (as in, the genesis wallet) doesn't sell Bitcoin.
Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by jqpabc123 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:54PM (#39365419)
And you somehow just "know" that he won't?
Re:Cryptocurrency Operator Sues Journalists Reporting on Law... by DANmode on Thursday February 15, 2024 @06:09PM (#39390570)
Huh?

I mostly mean "sell" as in "market".

If the Satoshi wallet is sold off when the coin is already a million each, what does that prove about that wallet's intentions?

I just don't see the connection...if they were doing daily pontificating on social media, signing messages with genesis wallet keys, I could understand directing the hate there.

As it stands, just confused.