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Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:44PM (#39337357)
This always sounded abusive to me. Like the wife was holding the husband emotionally hostage.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by michaelt on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:31PM (#39337810)
Allow me to let you in on a little secret.

When you don't want to do something, but you also don't want to be blamed for not doing it, you can transfer the blame to someone who isn't there.

Boss wants to go out drinking after work which is his idea of 'team building' but you don't feel like it right now? "Well gee boss I'd love to come, but my wife's expecting me home by 7pm. Happy wife happy life, right?"

About 75% of the time when you hear people in the workplace saying "happy wife happy life" what they actually mean is "thanks for the offer but no thanks, and don't bother trying to cajole or peer-pressure me"

(Veterans at transferring blame will go even further, transferring blame to abstract concepts like 'market conditions' and 'company policy' )

Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:34PM (#39337836)
Yeah that’s just as worse. You’re socializing around your wife being abusive. Makes the boss seem like a loser too.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by michaelt on Sunday February 11, 2024 @03:09PM (#39338178)
> You’re socializing around your wife being abusive.

Not at all, for all they know you're living some 1950s lifestyle where your wife has dinner on the table just as you get home, and it'll be cold if you're late. Or if they prefer, they can imagine you're a progressive modern father, going home to change diapers and help with bedtime. Or they can imagine you're deeply in love, and eager not to disappoint your best friend in the whole world.

There really is nothing abusive about a man saying he likes his wife to be happy. Making an effort to make the other person happy and them making an effort to make you happy is the whole point of a relationship, isn't it?

Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @03:55PM (#39338604)
I’m good at cheering people up and making them laugh. You can’t make people happy ESPECIALLY women. You’re just setting yourself up for failure. All you can do is support people and enable good decisions so that they can learn how to have a fulfilling life.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by rapind on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:49PM (#39337410)
I don't think it needs to be "wife" other than to rhyme. Having a happy partner instead of an unhappy partner (regardless of gender) is certainly better (speaking from experience).

This matters in business too.

Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:57PM (#39337477)
I mean you just compared a wife to a business partner so that’s not a great sign.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by rapind on Sunday February 11, 2024 @04:15PM (#39338783)
That's a pretty creative translation of what I actually said.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by chongli on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:27PM (#39337767)
Marriage has for most of its history been an arrangement for securing alliances and ensuring transfer of generational wealth. Since the sexual revolution [1] the pendulum has swung completely back the other way and attitudes toward marriage have focused almost exclusively on romance. The problem since then is that hormonally-driven romantic attachment is fleeting and unreliable, so security of relationships has dropped dramatically.

If people want to have a long-lasting and successful marriage they need to be clear-eyed and pragmatic about it. The fact that Hollywood makes a fortune selling romantic stories has not helped!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_revolution

Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:38PM (#39337882)
And now forced marriage is included in the category of modern day slavery. Marriage is work but it’s not a hostage negotiation situation. I see a lot of guys crushed by marriage, this idea that it pure benefits men is nonsense.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by cobertos on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:10PM (#39337605)
Honestly, the relationships are similar. They both require a lot of trust and companionship to be successful, you spend a lot of time with both people but in very different ways

Finding good business partners is like dating

Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:27PM (#39337775)
It’s kinda like a boss saying “we’re a family”
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by bigbillheck on Sunday February 11, 2024 @07:58PM (#39340372)
Surely this is not the first time you've heard 'partner' to refer to someone in the other half of a committed relationship.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by cobertos on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:12PM (#39337625)
Same... Or that the husband is objectifying the wife as a thing that just needs to be kept happy, regardless of what the husband actually truly thinks. Inauthentic.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:26PM (#39337764)
It always reminds me of that creepy old Lana Turner quote “A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man.”
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by andruby on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:48PM (#39337404)
I don’t think it’s suppose to sound like that. At least for me and the situations I have heard it, it’s a genuine expression that if you make your partner happy, it’ll also make your life (together) happy.

It works very well for me. We both appreciate each other and actively make an effort to make one another happy.

Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:55PM (#39337459)
Yeah it’s kind of the wife’s job to make herself happy. I mean it’s probably not in traditional wedding vows for a reason.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by teaearlgraycold on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:55PM (#39337460)
It goes both ways, there just isn’t a cute rhyme for husband.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by slowhadoken on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:59PM (#39337491)
As a man I have to say it creeps me out.
Re:When Laws Make Divorce Easier, Women Benefit, Outcomes Im... by svnt on Sunday February 11, 2024 @02:38PM (#39337891)
You’re not wrong. It does not by default go both ways.