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Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by kevin_thibedeau on Sunday February 11, 2024 @12:48AM (#39332920)
> In this age of scale, a password manager generating long random passwords is not "good to do", it's absolutely a requirement.

One day there will be an exploit for your password manager.

Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by Measter on Sunday February 11, 2024 @04:20AM (#39333695)
Of course, but that still requires the attacker to specifically target me. Attacking some random service I have an account with and getting everyone's account info isn't enough.
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by ThePowerOfFuet on Sunday February 11, 2024 @09:45AM (#39335298)
This isn't the case; look up "credential spraying".
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by lolinder on Sunday February 11, 2024 @12:11PM (#39336439)
Do you mean password spraying? Or credential stuffing? Or something different entirely?
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by bawolff on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:40AM (#39333065)
There are various design decisions that password managers can do to reduce this risk.

However there is always risk, the question is - is it better than the alternative? For most reasonably designed password managers the answer is yes.

Heck for the average person, a sticky note on the monitor is probably better than the alternative.

Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by Dylan16807 on Sunday February 11, 2024 @12:58AM (#39332946)
Any computer can get infected with a password stealer. As long as the password manager isn't significantly increasing the risk, then there's no problem.
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by ryandrake on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:26AM (#39333020)
All my passwords are “password” and I just use 2 factor auth for security.
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by bawolff on Sunday February 11, 2024 @01:37AM (#39333058)
This is pretty risky given how lax sone places are with allowing customer service to be talked into removing 2fa.
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by 8organicbits on Sunday February 11, 2024 @03:08AM (#39333351)
I've seen platforms that don't rate limit 2fa guesses. A six digit OTP has only a million possible values. Guessing once per second it only takes a couple days to guess.

This is also why a platform should never confirm that a password is correct when 2FA is enabled, only confirm if both have been solved.

Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by pintxo on Sunday February 11, 2024 @05:19AM (#39333988)
2FA is usually time limited? So this seems not to be an issue?
Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by 8organicbits on Sunday February 11, 2024 @06:14AM (#39334224)
Think about a time-based one-time passcode (OTP). Every 30 seconds you get a fresh code and the attacker tries to guess that code. There's usually a validity window of one or more OTP, so the attacker needs to guess one of several possible currently valid OTP.

This is a popular trick in CTF exercises and it's pretty quick if you can make 1000 guesses per second. Takes a couple minutes until you're in.

Re:Speak Friend and Enter – Do people use movie passwords? (... by rhysmdnz on Sunday February 11, 2024 @04:37PM (#39339012)
Because of fun probability stuff. The fact what your guessing changes doesn’t matter. It’s still a day to get a correct guess.

https://pulsesecurity.co.nz/articles/totp-bruting