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Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by carlmr on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:10AM (#39324493)
>Ken Forkish says basically this in Flour Salt Yeast

To anybody reading this. I can not recommend this book enough. It takes you from making so so bread to amazing bread if you read it for a day or two.

Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by barsonme on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:19AM (#39324520)
My only complaint is that his sourdough starter chapter has you make buckets of the stuff. Maybe it’s supposed to make it more difficult to screw up, I dunno.
Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by deaddodo on Saturday February 10, 2024 @04:23AM (#39324805)
He makes everything at industrial yields and doesn't bother to adjust for home use/yields.
Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by dredmorbius on Saturday February 10, 2024 @06:12AM (#39325294)
And, protip: the secret is bakers' percentages.

That is, to scale a recipe up or down, hold the relationships of ingredients proportionate to that of flour, by mass.

E.g., a typical starter is fed at a 100% ratio: 1 unit of flour to one unit of water. So, 100g, 1,000g, 200g, whatevs. Similarly for your dough, which is often described in terms of hydration. A very low hydration might be 50%, a typical novice dough about 60--65% (excellent for pizza crusts and rolls in my experience), 80% should start giving a very open crumb (with large voids and bubbles), and 100%+ used for high whole-grain flour, or very open-crumb breads. Higher hydration makes for more challenging handling, though with time most bakers develop a feel for this.

There are of course a myriad of other factors, and one of the joys (or frustrations) of sourdough baking is exploring those parameters. My experience is that even my disasters taste amazing, though visual appearances may be less impressive. Amongst those: temperature (hugely significant for both starter and sponge/dough/proofing), proofing time (warm and cold/retarded), types of flour, age of flour, oven temperatures, humidity, and probably a whole lot more. Again, even when things don't go to plan, the results are almost always rewarding. When you do happen to hit the magic balance, it's amazing. My bad batches are still amongst the best bread I've ever eaten.

Good baking books and online guides will discuss this.

Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by carlmr on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:10AM (#39356902)
I don't know what everyone is on about, Ken discusses exactly this in the book.

I guess most people didn't read the important part.

Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by garof on Saturday February 10, 2024 @10:04AM (#39326620)
His follow up 'Evolutions in Bread' is scaled down for single loaves, either the round or in a bread pan. Including the starter. Also the discard problem is addressed.
Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by i_am_proteus on Saturday February 10, 2024 @12:21PM (#39328104)
I found Forkish's book to be skippable. A lot of that flufftype "writing about thoughts about food" content to increase the length, similar to what you might find on a web log.

A good book on bread is called Bread and it is by Jeffrey Hamelman, published by Wiley.

He understands you might not know anything about bread. All recipes are well-explained and scaled to both the home kitchen and the professional bakery. No web log style writing to waste the reader's time.

Re:Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter by carlmr on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:46AM (#39478363)
I can't really follow your criticism. There is some parts about why he started baking bread. But you can easily discern that from the meat of the book if you don't want to read it.

Then there's an in-depth explanation of the techniques used in the recipes. You shouldn't skip this obviously if you don't know it.

Then there are the recipes which are short and to the point.

And if you read the part about technique you understand bakers percentages and know exactly how to scale it to home kitchen needs, whether you're single or a small family.