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Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by standeven on Saturday February 10, 2024 @01:21AM (#39324061)
Wow, you weren’t kidding. I just checked Autotrader and low-ish mileage 2017 Mirais start at $6k.

Business idea: buy Mirais, pull out and sell the H2 systems, and drop in battery packs to make them BEVs.

Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by RandomWorker on Saturday February 10, 2024 @01:48AM (#39324159)
Retrofit would be between 15-20k a piece, are you able to sell them for 30-40k? Where’s the profit?
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by userbinator on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:22AM (#39324534)
Or just LS swap them.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by thot_experiment on Saturday February 10, 2024 @04:48AM (#39324927)
I can't imagine this would be easy to do, but I will 100% click the youtube video when someone does.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by yreg on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:02AM (#39324462)
Isn't this an interesting opportunity for Japanese buyers to import back?
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by eethawkey on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:15AM (#39324510)
wrong side of road?
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by Scoundreller on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:28PM (#39329891)
Probably shares enough parts with another Toyota to not be too difficult to swap it back.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by emodendroket on Sunday February 11, 2024 @03:16AM (#39333381)
And use their plentiful hydrogen stations?
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by yreg on Sunday February 11, 2024 @08:21AM (#39334804)
Yes. Wikipedia says there are 167-181 stations in Japan, while USA had 58.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by emodendroket on Sunday February 11, 2024 @11:33PM (#39341371)
By way of comparison, there are just under 30,000 gas stations in Japan, which itself represents a 50% dropoff from previous peaks and leaves some people needing to drive long distances for gas (c.f. https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01830/#:~:text=As%20th....). That's still pathetic.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by kolinko on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:05AM (#39324473)
H2 systems and electronics themselves are worth more than $6k probably.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by LoganDark on Saturday February 10, 2024 @01:48AM (#39324160)
I think you'd have to lift the entire cabin in order to fit a big enough battery underneath it. Still, not quite outside the realm of possibility. Sillier things have been done by individuals before.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by dhahlen on Saturday February 10, 2024 @06:26AM (#39325359)
If you look at cutaways of the hydrogen vehicles, there is an enormous amount of space used for tanks and the fuel cell etc. The battery layout could be closer to that of a Polestar 2 rather than the more common 'skateboard' battery pack. Not that it would be an easy project!
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by wkat4242 on Saturday February 10, 2024 @08:31AM (#39326000)
You can also just burn the hydrogen in an engine. The Mazda R8 could run on hydrogen thanks to its rotary engine. Still need the huge tank though :)
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by LoganDark on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:18PM (#39329802)
You can do that without having to make any changes to the fuel lines / injectors?
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday February 11, 2024 @08:31AM (#39334861)
I believe fuel cell vehicles convert hydrogen to electricity and then have electric drive trains.
Re:Shell closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for ... by Scoundreller on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:21PM (#39329831)
Buy it. Store it in an arctic tundra desert protected from the elements. In some decades, some country will roll out mass nuclear and dirt cheap H2 and you'll export it there as a $$$ vintage H2 car and make bank.